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shedman
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Post by shedman »

7F293F2B243E2E25283F0D2A202C2421632E4D0 wrote: The hate for Polanco is nothing more than pre-apologizing for the expected salary dump.


What's it like to be wrong so often?  I've wanted Polanco out of Pittsburgh before McCutchen was traded away.



I thought you wanted the Pirates to be better.


Polanco is batting .455 and leading the team in HR's and RBI's this spring, but we just can't stand a ball player that is paid more than $1 million per year.  DUMP DUMP DUMP




As I've explained to you a dozen times, I don't care how much money any player earns.  I only care that he can help the team win.  I have little faith Polanco can help the Pirates win, other than a meaningless Spring Training game.



However, I hope he keeps it up for the next four months so that some dope GM will be willing to trade for him.  He has no future here beyond this season, a season in which you think they'll win 46 games.  So you want to keep him so he can help the team win, what, 49 games?  Yeah, that should win the pennant.




That would be #3:

Here are the top 10 excuses and alibis for not acquiring a player.



1. He is an aging veteran on the decline.

2. He is too injury prone.

3. Acquiring him would bring us no closer to a championship.

4. He would never sign to play in Pittsburgh.

5. He would be a clubhouse cancer.

6. Acquiring him would upset the team chemistry.

7. Signing him would lose financial flexibility for a 1 year player.

8.We already have players just as good as him.

9. We are not the Red Sox or Yankees and they would outbid us.

10.He would block this LMG or that LMG from development.
WildwoodDave2

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Post by WildwoodDave2 »

425954555C505F310 wrote: The hate for Polanco is nothing more than pre-apologizing for the expected salary dump.


What's it like to be wrong so often?  I've wanted Polanco out of Pittsburgh before McCutchen was traded away.



I thought you wanted the Pirates to be better.


Polanco is batting .455 and leading the team in HR's and RBI's this spring, but we just can't stand a ball player that is paid more than $1 million per year.  DUMP DUMP DUMP


I did some checking- his .455 HR's and RBI"s are when he faced some Clowna who will soon be pitching in the Minors
shedman
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Post by shedman »

7C42474F5C44444F6F4A5D4E192B0 wrote: The hate for Polanco is nothing more than pre-apologizing for the expected salary dump.


What's it like to be wrong so often?  I've wanted Polanco out of Pittsburgh before McCutchen was traded away.



I thought you wanted the Pirates to be better.


Polanco is batting .455 and leading the team in HR's and RBI's this spring, but we just can't stand a ball player that is paid more than $1 million per year.  DUMP DUMP DUMP


I did some checking- his .455 HR's and RBI"s are when he faced some Clowna who will soon  be pitching in the Minors


---

All the Pirate players are facing the same pitching.
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Post by 2drfischer@gmail.c »

4B505D5C555956380 wrote: The hate for Polanco is nothing more than pre-apologizing for the expected salary dump.


What's it like to be wrong so often?  I've wanted Polanco out of Pittsburgh before McCutchen was traded away.



I thought you wanted the Pirates to be better.


Polanco is batting .455 and leading the team in HR's and RBI's this spring, but we just can't stand a ball player that is paid more than $1 million per year.  DUMP DUMP DUMP




As I've explained to you a dozen times, I don't care how much money any player earns.  I only care that he can help the team win.  I have little faith Polanco can help the Pirates win, other than a meaningless Spring Training game.



However, I hope he keeps it up for the next four months so that some dope GM will be willing to trade for him.  He has no future here beyond this season, a season in which you think they'll win 46 games.  So you want to keep him so he can help the team win, what, 49 games?  Yeah, that should win the pennant.




That would be #3:

Here are the top 10 excuses and alibis for not acquiring a player.



1. He is an aging veteran on the decline.

2. He is too injury prone.

3. Acquiring him would bring us no closer to a championship.

4. He would never sign to play in Pittsburgh.

5. He would be a clubhouse cancer.

6. Acquiring him would upset the team chemistry.

7. Signing him would lose financial flexibility for a 1 year player.

8.We already have players just as good as him.

9. We are not the Red Sox or Yankees and they would outbid us.

10.He would block this LMG or that LMG from development.




No, that's the exact opposite of #3. We already have him, and getting rid of him will bring us closer to the pennant.
WildwoodDave2

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Post by WildwoodDave2 »

726964656C606F010 wrote: The hate for Polanco is nothing more than pre-apologizing for the expected salary dump.


What's it like to be wrong so often?  I've wanted Polanco out of Pittsburgh before McCutchen was traded away.



I thought you wanted the Pirates to be better.


Polanco is batting .455 and leading the team in HR's and RBI's this spring, but we just can't stand a ball player that is paid more than $1 million per year.  DUMP DUMP DUMP


I did some checking- his .455 HR's and RBI"s are when he faced some Clowna who will soon  be pitching in the Minors


---

All the Pirate players are facing the same pitching.


Same pitching but at this point guys are only pitching one or two innings. Polanco got the stiffs
WildwoodDave2

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Post by WildwoodDave2 »

754B4E46554D4D466643544710220 wrote: The hate for Polanco is nothing more than pre-apologizing for the expected salary dump.


What's it like to be wrong so often?  I've wanted Polanco out of Pittsburgh before McCutchen was traded away.



I thought you wanted the Pirates to be better.


Polanco is batting .455 and leading the team in HR's and RBI's this spring, but we just can't stand a ball player that is paid more than $1 million per year.  DUMP DUMP DUMP


I did some checking- his .455 HR's and RBI"s are when he faced some Clowna who will soon  be pitching in the Minors


---

All the Pirate players are facing the same pitching.


Same pitching but at this point guys are only pitching one or two innings. Polanco got the stiffs
I spoke to Alvy and he felt the same way :D ;D
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Does Cahill get some points on this score card, or is it considered another minor league signing by the Pirates.
shedman
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It's Trevor Cahill to the Pirates for a 3. What say you WWD?



Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5),Profar(2),Melancon(2.5)

--Davies(3.5),Kela(2.5),Tatis(4)................................29.5

Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1),Loup(2),Almora(1.5),Villar(2)

--Pillar(3),Walker(3)................................................29.5

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)

--Realmuto(5),Moore(2),Gregorius(3),Anderson(2)

--Miller(2.5)............................................................24.5

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5),Taillon(2),)'Day(2),Lemahieu(4)

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).......

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5),LaStella((2.5)

--McGee(2.5),Sanchez(2),Alvarez(2).............................21

--Wilson(2.5),Gardner(2.5)........................................20.5

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3),Springer(5)

--Semien(3.5),Matz(1),Phelps(2.5)...............................20

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5),Bass(2)Duvall(3),Floro(2)

--Curtis(2.5)Duvall(3)...................................................17

Athletics-Andrus(2.5),Fiers(2),Ko;arek(2),Petit(2.5),Romo(2)

--Rosenthal(3.5),Moreland(2.5).....................................17

Cubs - Rizzo(3),Romine(1),Stewart(.5),Williams(1.5),Chafin(1.5)

--Pederson(2),Marisnick(1),Arrieta(2.5),Workman(1)

--Tepera(1.5).............................................................15.5

Angels-Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1),Quintana(2.5)

--Cobb(2),Fowler(1.5)Slegers(1)....................................15

Dodgers Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3),Bauer(5),Turner(3.5).15

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5),Hernandez(2.5)

--Rosario(3.5),Perez(2)................................................14

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5),Ozuna(5)

--Lamb(1)...................................................................14

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)

--Zimmerman(1),Hand(3),Avila(.5)...............................13.5

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Archer(2)

--Hill(2.5),McHugh(1),Drake(1),Roe(2)..........................13.5

Red Sox Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2),Richards(3),Ottavino(1)-

--Gonzalez(2),Sawamura(1)...........................................13

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2),Hernandez(2)

--Giles(2.5),Paxton(3).................................................12.5

Astros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5),Brantley(3),Castro(1),Odorizzi(3)...12.5

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5)

--Foltynewicz(2),Davis(2.5)........................................11

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Cardinals - Wainwrighjt(3),Arenado(5),Molina(2.5)....................10.5

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5),Rodon(.5)...........9.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2),Soria(3),Cabrera(2),Clippard(2.5)..........9.5

Royals Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5),Benintendi(1.5)

--Dyson(.5)..............................................................9

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1),Wong(2),Anderson(2.5)

--Bradley(3).............................................................9

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2),Ramos(2),Schoop(2),Mazara(1.5).8.5

Pirates - Andersen(2.5),Cahill(3)...............................................5.5

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5),Galvis(2)................................................4.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5),Perez(1),Doolittle(1)4.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5),Gomber(2).........................................2.5



Attaboy Ben. You went right on by the Reds and the Orioles. I may have been all wrong about you. Now Yasiel Puig is still out there!!!
WildwoodDave2

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Post by WildwoodDave2 »

49525F5E575B543A0 wrote: It's Trevor Cahill to the Pirates for a 3.  What say you WWD?



Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5),Profar(2),Melancon(2.5)

--Davies(3.5),Kela(2.5),Tatis(4)................................29.5

Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1),Loup(2),Almora(1.5),Villar(2)

--Pillar(3),Walker(3)................................................29.5

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)

--Realmuto(5),Moore(2),Gregorius(3),Anderson(2)

--Miller(2.5)............................................................24.5

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5),Taillon(2),)'Day(2),Lemahieu(4)

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).......

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5),LaStella((2.5)

--McGee(2.5),Sanchez(2),Alvarez(2).............................21

--Wilson(2.5),Gardner(2.5)........................................20.5

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3),Springer(5)

--Semien(3.5),Matz(1),Phelps(2.5)...............................20

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5),Bass(2)Duvall(3),Floro(2)

--Curtis(2.5)Duvall(3)...................................................17

Athletics-Andrus(2.5),Fiers(2),Ko;arek(2),Petit(2.5),Romo(2)

--Rosenthal(3.5),Moreland(2.5).....................................17

Cubs - Rizzo(3),Romine(1),Stewart(.5),Williams(1.5),Chafin(1.5)

--Pederson(2),Marisnick(1),Arrieta(2.5),Workman(1)

--Tepera(1.5).............................................................15.5

Angels-Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1),Quintana(2.5)

--Cobb(2),Fowler(1.5)Slegers(1)....................................15

Dodgers  Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3),Bauer(5),Turner(3.5).15

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5),Hernandez(2.5)

--Rosario(3.5),Perez(2)................................................14

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5),Ozuna(5)

--Lamb(1)...................................................................14

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)

--Zimmerman(1),Hand(3),Avila(.5)...............................13.5

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Archer(2)

--Hill(2.5),McHugh(1),Drake(1),Roe(2)..........................13.5

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2),Richards(3),Ottavino(1)-

--Gonzalez(2),Sawamura(1)...........................................13

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2),Hernandez(2)

--Giles(2.5),Paxton(3).................................................12.5

Astros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5),Brantley(3),Castro(1),Odorizzi(3)...12.5

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5)

--Foltynewicz(2),Davis(2.5)........................................11

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Cardinals - Wainwrighjt(3),Arenado(5),Molina(2.5)....................10.5

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5),Rodon(.5)...........9.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2),Soria(3),Cabrera(2),Clippard(2.5)..........9.5

Royals   Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5),Benintendi(1.5)

--Dyson(.5)..............................................................9

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1),Wong(2),Anderson(2.5)

--Bradley(3).............................................................9

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2),Ramos(2),Schoop(2),Mazara(1.5).8.5

Pirates - Andersen(2.5),Cahill(3)...............................................5.5

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5),Galvis(2)................................................4.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5),Perez(1),Doolittle(1)4.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5),Gomber(2).........................................2.5



Attaboy Ben.  You went right on by the Reds and the Orioles.  I may have been all wrong about you.  Now Yasiel Puig is still out there!!!
Cahill-2.5- 4.20 lifetime ERA and has been with nine teams. Hardly a ringing endorsemeny



Puig- has serious legal problems- forget about him!!
fjk090852-7
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635D5850435B5B507055425106340 wrote: It's Trevor Cahill to the Pirates for a 3.  What say you WWD?



Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5),Profar(2),Melancon(2.5)

--Davies(3.5),Kela(2.5),Tatis(4)................................29.5

Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1),Loup(2),Almora(1.5),Villar(2)

--Pillar(3),Walker(3)................................................29.5

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)

--Realmuto(5),Moore(2),Gregorius(3),Anderson(2)

--Miller(2.5)............................................................24.5

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5),Taillon(2),)'Day(2),Lemahieu(4)

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).......

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5),LaStella((2.5)

--McGee(2.5),Sanchez(2),Alvarez(2).............................21

--Wilson(2.5),Gardner(2.5)........................................20.5

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3),Springer(5)

--Semien(3.5),Matz(1),Phelps(2.5)...............................20

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5),Bass(2)Duvall(3),Floro(2)

--Curtis(2.5)Duvall(3)...................................................17

Athletics-Andrus(2.5),Fiers(2),Ko;arek(2),Petit(2.5),Romo(2)

--Rosenthal(3.5),Moreland(2.5).....................................17

Cubs - Rizzo(3),Romine(1),Stewart(.5),Williams(1.5),Chafin(1.5)

--Pederson(2),Marisnick(1),Arrieta(2.5),Workman(1)

--Tepera(1.5).............................................................15.5

Angels-Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1),Quintana(2.5)

--Cobb(2),Fowler(1.5)Slegers(1)....................................15

Dodgers  Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3),Bauer(5),Turner(3.5).15

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5),Hernandez(2.5)

--Rosario(3.5),Perez(2)................................................14

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5),Ozuna(5)

--Lamb(1)...................................................................14

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)

--Zimmerman(1),Hand(3),Avila(.5)...............................13.5

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Archer(2)

--Hill(2.5),McHugh(1),Drake(1),Roe(2)..........................13.5

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2),Richards(3),Ottavino(1)-

--Gonzalez(2),Sawamura(1)...........................................13

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2),Hernandez(2)

--Giles(2.5),Paxton(3).................................................12.5

Astros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5),Brantley(3),Castro(1),Odorizzi(3)...12.5

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5)

--Foltynewicz(2),Davis(2.5)........................................11

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Cardinals - Wainwrighjt(3),Arenado(5),Molina(2.5)....................10.5

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5),Rodon(.5)...........9.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2),Soria(3),Cabrera(2),Clippard(2.5)..........9.5

Royals   Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5),Benintendi(1.5)

--Dyson(.5)..............................................................9

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1),Wong(2),Anderson(2.5)

--Bradley(3).............................................................9

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2),Ramos(2),Schoop(2),Mazara(1.5).8.5

Pirates - Andersen(2.5),Cahill(3)...............................................5.5

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5),Galvis(2)................................................4.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5),Perez(1),Doolittle(1)4.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5),Gomber(2).........................................2.5



Attaboy Ben.  You went right on by the Reds and the Orioles.  I may have been all wrong about you.  Now Yasiel Puig is still out there!!!
Cahill-2.5-   4.20 lifetime ERA and has been with nine teams. Hardly a ringing endorsemeny



Puig- has serious legal problems- forget about him!!
There is no way the Pirates want Puig in their organization. I would prefer several Todd Frazier’s before I would want Puig. The Pirates are trying to build a winning attitude with the young players like Hayes and Reynolds, Puig’s actions and attitude would not be a good thing in the clubhouse.
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