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7B606D6C656966080 wrote: It's Aaron Sanchez to the Giants for a 2 and John Curtis to the Marlins for a 2.5.  What say you WWD?



Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1),Loup(2),Almora(1.5),Villar(2)

--Pillar(3).................................................................26.5

Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5),Profar(2),Melancon(2.5)

--Davies(3.5),Kela(2.5).............................................25.5

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)

--Realmuto(5),Moore(2),Gregorius(3),Anderson(2)

--Miller(2.5)............................................................24.5

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3),Springer(5)

--Semien(3.5),Matz(1),Phelps(2.5)...............................20

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).......

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5),LaStella((2.5)

--McGee(2.5),Sanchez(2).............................................19

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5),Taillon(2),)'Day(2),Lemahieu(4)

--Wilson(2.5)..............................................................18

Angels-Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1),Quintana(2.5)

--Cobb(2),Fowler(1.5)Slegers(1)....................................15

Dodgers  Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3),Bauer(5),Turner(3.5).15

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5),Bass(2)Duvall(3),Floro(2)

--Curtis(2.5)............................................................14

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)

--Zimmerman(1),Hand(3),Avila(.5)...............................13.5

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2),Richards(3),Ottavino(1)-

--Gonzalez(2),Sawamura(1)...........................................13

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5),Ozuna(5)...13

Cubs - Rizzo(3),Romine(1),Stewart(.5),Williams(1.5),Chafin(1.5)

--Pederson(2),Marisnick(1),Arrieta(2.5).................................... 13

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2),Hernandez(2)

--Giles(2.5),Paxton(3).................................................12.5

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5),Hernandez(2.5)

--Rosario(3.5).............................................................12

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5)

--Foltynewicz(2),Davis(2.5)........................................11

Athletics-Andrus(2.5),Fiers(2),Ko;arek(2),Petit(2.5),Romo(2........11

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Archer(2)

--Hill(2.5),McHugh(1)..................................................10.5

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Cardinals - Wainwrighjt(3),Arenado(5),Molina(2.5)....................10.5

Astros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5),Brantley(3),Castro(1)......................9.5

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5),Rodon(.5)...........9.5

Royals   Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5),Benintendi(1.5)...........8.5

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2),Ramos(2),Schoop(2),Mazara(1.5).8.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2),Soria(3),Cabrera(2)..............................7

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1),Wong(2),Anderson(2.5)..............6

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5),Galvis(2)................................................4.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5),Perez(1),Doolittle(1)4.5

Pirates - Andersen(2.5)............................................................2.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5),Gomber(2).........................................2.5



Cherington is starting to look like a one and done guy.


Aaron Sanchez 2

John Curtis 2.5

4E555859505C533D0 wrote: The Twins sign Matt Shoemaker for a 1.  What say you WWD?



Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5),Profar(2),Melancon(2.5)

--Davies(3.5),Kela(2.5).............................................25.5

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)

--Realmuto(5),Moore(2),Gregorius(3),Anderson(2)

--Miller(2.5)............................................................24.5

Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1),Loup(2),Almora(1.5),Villar(2(23.5

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3),Springer(5)

--Semien(3.5),Matz(1),Phelps(2.5)...............................20

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).......

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5),LaStella((2.5)

--McGee(2.5)..............................................................17

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5),Taillon(2),)'Day(2),Lemahieu(4).15.5

Angels-Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1),Quintana(2.5)

--Cobb(2),Fowler(1.5)Slegers(1)....................................15

Dodgers  Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3),Bauer(5),Turner(3.5).15

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)

--Zimmerman(1),Hand(3),Avila(.5)...............................13.5

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2),Richards(3),Ottavino(1)-

--Gonzalez(2),Sawamura(1.5)......................................13.5

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5),Ozuna(5)...13

Cubs - Rizzo(3),Romine(1),Stewart(.5),Williams(1.5),Chafin(1.5)

--Pederson(2),Marisnick(1),Arrieta(2.5).................................... 13

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2),Hernandez(2)

--Giles(2.5),Paxton(3).................................................12.5

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5),Hernandez(2.5)

--Rosario(3.5).............................................................12

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5),Bass(2)Duvall(3),Floro(2).........11.5

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5)

--Foltynewicz(2),Davis(2.5)........................................11

Athletics-Andrus(2.5),Fiers(2),Ko;arek(2),Petit(2.5),Romo(2........11

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Archer(2)

--Hill(2.5),McHugh(1)..................................................10.5

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Cardinals - Wainwrighjt(3),Arenado(5),Molina(2.5)....................10.5

Astros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5),Brantley(3),Castro(1)......................9.5

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5),Rodon(.5)...........9.5

Royals   Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5),Benintendi(1.5)...........8.5

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2),Ramos(2),Schoop(2),Mazara(1.5).8.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2),Soria(3),Cabrera(2)..............................7

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5),Galvis(2)................................................4.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5),Perez(1),Doolittle(1)4.5

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1),Wong(2).................................3.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5),Gomber(2).........................................2.5



[highlight]Cherington has set th s club back 5 years from the already low level under Huntington.  He has no idea what he is doing as a GM.[/highlight]


I can't wait for the day the Pirates win the World Series under Cherington and you have to eat that very large plateful of words of yours.


I'll buy the beer he can drink to wash all those words down his throat into his then very distended stomach!


_________

Possum, don't let these gadfly's deter you.  If you want to buy beer, I will gladly meet you or if  you are unable to meet, you can just send me a check.


Shoemaker 1

782E382C233929222F380A2D272B232664294A0 wrote: Our Bucs sign Tyler Andersen fir a 2.5.  What say you WWD?



Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1),Loup(2),Almora(1.5),Villar(2)

--Pillar(3).................................................................26.5

Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5),Profar(2),Melancon(2.5)

--Davies(3.5),Kela(2.5).............................................25.5

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)

--Realmuto(5),Moore(2),Gregorius(3),Anderson(2)

--Miller(2.5)............................................................24.5

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3),Springer(5)

--Semien(3.5),Matz(1),Phelps(2.5)...............................20

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5),Taillon(2),)'Day(2),Lemahieu(4)

--Wilson(2.5)..............................................................18

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).......

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5),LaStella((2.5)

--McGee(2.5)..............................................................17

Angels-Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1),Quintana(2.5)

--Cobb(2),Fowler(1.5)Slegers(1)....................................15

Dodgers  Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3),Bauer(5),Turner(3.5).15

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)

--Zimmerman(1),Hand(3),Avila(.5)...............................13.5

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2),Richards(3),Ottavino(1)-

--Gonzalez(2),Sawamura(1)...........................................13

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5),Ozuna(5)...13

Cubs - Rizzo(3),Romine(1),Stewart(.5),Williams(1.5),Chafin(1.5)

--Pederson(2),Marisnick(1),Arrieta(2.5).................................... 13

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2),Hernandez(2)

--Giles(2.5),Paxton(3).................................................12.5

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5),Hernandez(2.5)

--Rosario(3.5).............................................................12

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5),Bass(2)Duvall(3),Floro(2).........11.5

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5)

--Foltynewicz(2),Davis(2.5)........................................11

Athletics-Andrus(2.5),Fiers(2),Ko;arek(2),Petit(2.5),Romo(2........11

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Archer(2)

--Hill(2.5),McHugh(1)..................................................10.5

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Cardinals - Wainwrighjt(3),Arenado(5),Molina(2.5)....................10.5

Astros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5),Brantley(3),Castro(1)......................9.5

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5),Rodon(.5)...........9.5

Royals   Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5),Benintendi(1.5)...........8.5

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2),Ramos(2),Schoop(2),Mazara(1.5).8.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2),Soria(3),Cabrera(2)..............................7

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5),Galvis(2)................................................4.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5),Perez(1),Doolittle(1)4.5

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1),Wong(2).................................3.5

Pirates - Andersen(2.5)............................................................2.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5),Gomber(2).........................................2.5



Attaboy Ben!!! Could it be that I have been wrong about you all along?  A major league pitcher added to our rotation is a giant leap in the right direction.  Don't stop now,  get us a power hitting 1B and an OF.  You da man Ben!!!!!


If you changed your underpants as quickly as you change your opinions, the world would be a safer place.


Are you implying that Shedman has dirty drawers/ ;D

557875646372652526170 wrote: And just like that, there it is:



"On a call right now with Derek Shelton, the Pirates' manager. He's speaking passionately about the young roster they'll carry into Bradenton, the prospects at hand, the internal competition he expects: 'I'm excited. I can't wait to get started.'" - Dejan



Once again, as your as the sun rises, , they are excited by the guys they already have under contractual control.


I know Shelton has to present himself as excited, but he probably should tone it down some.  We all know what's going on.  If the line-up was going to be filled with young prospects who performed well in the minor leagues, and we've been anticipating their arrival, I could see the excitement.  But he has little to work with other than Quad A players, replacement level players, and a few guys who could be platoon players with other teams.  I don't want air blown up my skirt.  Just be realistic and honest with us.   


But OTOH, Shelton isn't calling a press conference to make these announcements. He gets a reporter in his face asking for a comment. Between trying not to discourage the fan base any more than has already happened and trying not to discourage his players, he tries to say something upbeat. He'd probably prefer not having to make any comment at all on the upcoming season but I can't blame him for trying to sound upbeat when he has to give a response. I thought he was a horrible manager last season and hope he makes more logical decisions this year. But I don't blame him for not giving doom and gloom answers to reporters. The reporters all know how bad the team will be this year. So why even ask him to comment? 


When Derek Shelton says "we're going to win" as he stated in the PG Article, he wasn't specific. Did he mean1out of 4, 1out of 5 or 1 out of 6?

The Cubs get Brandon Workman for a 1 and the Marlins get Adam Duvall for a 3. What say you WWD?



Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1),Loup(2),Almora(1.5),Villar(2)

--Pillar(3).................................................................26.5



Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5),Profar(2),Melancon(2.5)

--Davies(3.5),Kela(2.5).............................................25.5

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)

--Realmuto(5),Moore(2),Gregorius(3),Anderson(2)

--Miller(2.5)............................................................24.5

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3),Springer(5)

--Semien(3.5),Matz(1),Phelps(2.5)...............................20

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).......

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5),LaStella((2.5)

--McGee(2.5),Sanchez(2).............................................19

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5),Taillon(2),)'Day(2),Lemahieu(4)

--Wilson(2.5)..............................................................18

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5),Bass(2)Duvall(3),Floro(2)

--Curtis(2.5)Duvall(3)...................................................17

Angels-Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1),Quintana(2.5)

--Cobb(2),Fowler(1.5)Slegers(1)....................................15

Dodgers Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3),Bauer(5),Turner(3.5).15

Cubs - Rizzo(3),Romine(1),Stewart(.5),Williams(1.5),Chafin(1.5)

--Pederson(2),Marisnick(1),Arrieta(2.5),Workman(1)........ 14

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)

--Zimmerman(1),Hand(3),Avila(.5)...............................13.5

Red Sox Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2),Richards(3),Ottavino(1)-

--Gonzalez(2),Sawamura(1)...........................................13

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5),Ozuna(5)...13

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2),Hernandez(2)

--Giles(2.5),Paxton(3).................................................12.5

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5),Hernandez(2.5)

--Rosario(3.5).............................................................12

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5)

--Foltynewicz(2),Davis(2.5)........................................11

Athletics-Andrus(2.5),Fiers(2),Ko;arek(2),Petit(2.5),Romo(2........11

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Archer(2)

--Hill(2.5),McHugh(1)..................................................10.5

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Cardinals - Wainwrighjt(3),Arenado(5),Molina(2.5)....................10.5

Astros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5),Brantley(3),Castro(1)......................9.5

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5),Rodon(.5)...........9.5

Royals Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5),Benintendi(1.5)...........8.5

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2),Ramos(2),Schoop(2),Mazara(1.5).8.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2),Soria(3),Cabrera(2)..............................7

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1),Wong(2),Anderson(2.5)..............6

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5),Galvis(2)................................................4.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5),Perez(1),Doolittle(1)4.5

Pirates - Andersen(2.5)............................................................2.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5),Gomber(2).........................................2.5



Duvall would have looked good in a Pirate uniform but I guess we were outbid by the large market Marlins.

49525F5E575B543A0 wrote:

Cherington is starting to look like a one and done guy.


The team is minus Chris Archer, Trevor Williams, Jameson Taillon, Joe Musgrove. Now, with the pickup, have they improved the starting rotation or not? Consider Taillon and Archer have to still prove they have successfully recovered from injury, Williams appeared to never have from two seasons ago. Musgrove and Anderson were each given a 2.5 by the esteemed panel.



Is a potential rotation of Anderson, Keller, Brault, Brubaker, and a question mark better than, equal to, or less than one that could have been Archer, Taillon, Musgrove, and probably Keller, and a question mark? All things considered, including injury.



If I gave you one set of four, disregarding the question mark for the 5th guy, which set are you taking?

69727F7E777B741A0 wrote: The Cubs get Brandon Workman  for  a 1 and the Marlins get Adam Duvall for a 3.  What say you WWD?



Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1),Loup(2),Almora(1.5),Villar(2)

--Pillar(3).................................................................26.5



Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5),Profar(2),Melancon(2.5)

--Davies(3.5),Kela(2.5).............................................25.5

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)

--Realmuto(5),Moore(2),Gregorius(3),Anderson(2)

--Miller(2.5)............................................................24.5

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3),Springer(5)

--Semien(3.5),Matz(1),Phelps(2.5)...............................20

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).......

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5),LaStella((2.5)

--McGee(2.5),Sanchez(2).............................................19

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5),Taillon(2),)'Day(2),Lemahieu(4)

--Wilson(2.5)..............................................................18

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5),Bass(2)Duvall(3),Floro(2)

--Curtis(2.5)Duvall(3)...................................................17

Angels-Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1),Quintana(2.5)

--Cobb(2),Fowler(1.5)Slegers(1)....................................15

Dodgers  Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3),Bauer(5),Turner(3.5).15

Cubs - Rizzo(3),Romine(1),Stewart(.5),Williams(1.5),Chafin(1.5)

--Pederson(2),Marisnick(1),Arrieta(2.5),Workman(1)........ 14

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)

--Zimmerman(1),Hand(3),Avila(.5)...............................13.5

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2),Richards(3),Ottavino(1)-

--Gonzalez(2),Sawamura(1)...........................................13

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5),Ozuna(5)...13

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2),Hernandez(2)

--Giles(2.5),Paxton(3).................................................12.5

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5),Hernandez(2.5)

--Rosario(3.5).............................................................12

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5)

--Foltynewicz(2),Davis(2.5)........................................11

Athletics-Andrus(2.5),Fiers(2),Ko;arek(2),Petit(2.5),Romo(2........11

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Archer(2)

--Hill(2.5),McHugh(1)..................................................10.5

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Cardinals - Wainwrighjt(3),Arenado(5),Molina(2.5)....................10.5

Astros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5),Brantley(3),Castro(1)......................9.5

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5),Rodon(.5)...........9.5

Royals   Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5),Benintendi(1.5)...........8.5

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2),Ramos(2),Schoop(2),Mazara(1.5).8.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2),Soria(3),Cabrera(2)..............................7

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1),Wong(2),Anderson(2.5)..............6

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5),Galvis(2)................................................4.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5),Perez(1),Doolittle(1)4.5

Pirates - Andersen(2.5)............................................................2.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5),Gomber(2).........................................2.5



Duvall would have looked good in a Pirate uniform but I guess we were outbid by the large market Marlins.


Workman 1

Duvall- 3 a little leery on this one- Was not resigned by Braves

674146535A5641575F340 wrote:

Cherington is starting to look like a one and done guy.


The team is minus Chris Archer, Trevor Williams, Jameson Taillon, Joe Musgrove. Now, with the pickup, have they improved the starting rotation or not? Consider Taillon and Archer have to still prove they have successfully recovered from injury, Williams appeared to never have from two seasons ago. Musgrove and Anderson were each given a 2.5 by the esteemed panel.



Is a potential rotation of Anderson, Keller, Brault, Brubaker, and a question mark better than, equal to, or less than one that could have been Archer, Taillon, Musgrove, and probably Keller, and a question mark? All things considered, including injury.



If I gave you one set of four, disregarding the question mark for the 5th guy, which set are you taking?
Do you mean my best four of all those mentioned above?

56686D65766E6E654560776433010 wrote: Our Bucs sign Tyler Andersen fir a 2.5.  What say you WWD?



Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1),Loup(2),Almora(1.5),Villar(2)

--Pillar(3).................................................................26.5

Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5),Profar(2),Melancon(2.5)

--Davies(3.5),Kela(2.5).............................................25.5

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)

--Realmuto(5),Moore(2),Gregorius(3),Anderson(2)

--Miller(2.5)............................................................24.5

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3),Springer(5)

--Semien(3.5),Matz(1),Phelps(2.5)...............................20

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5),Taillon(2),)'Day(2),Lemahieu(4)

--Wilson(2.5)..............................................................18

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).......

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5),LaStella((2.5)

--McGee(2.5)..............................................................17

Angels-Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1),Quintana(2.5)

--Cobb(2),Fowler(1.5)Slegers(1)....................................15

Dodgers  Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3),Bauer(5),Turner(3.5).15

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)

--Zimmerman(1),Hand(3),Avila(.5)...............................13.5

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2),Richards(3),Ottavino(1)-

--Gonzalez(2),Sawamura(1)...........................................13

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5),Ozuna(5)...13

Cubs - Rizzo(3),Romine(1),Stewart(.5),Williams(1.5),Chafin(1.5)

--Pederson(2),Marisnick(1),Arrieta(2.5).................................... 13

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2),Hernandez(2)

--Giles(2.5),Paxton(3).................................................12.5

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5),Hernandez(2.5)

--Rosario(3.5).............................................................12

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5),Bass(2)Duvall(3),Floro(2).........11.5

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5)

--Foltynewicz(2),Davis(2.5)........................................11

Athletics-Andrus(2.5),Fiers(2),Ko;arek(2),Petit(2.5),Romo(2........11

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Archer(2)

--Hill(2.5),McHugh(1)..................................................10.5

Twins - Simmons(3.5),Cruz(3),Colome(2.5),Andersen(1.5)

--Shoemaker(1)..........................................................11.5

Cardinals - Wainwrighjt(3),Arenado(5),Molina(2.5)....................10.5

Astros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5),Brantley(3),Castro(1)......................9.5

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5),Rodon(.5)...........9.5

Royals   Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5),Benintendi(1.5)...........8.5

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2),Ramos(2),Schoop(2),Mazara(1.5).8.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2),Soria(3),Cabrera(2)..............................7

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5),Galvis(2)................................................4.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5),Perez(1),Doolittle(1)4.5

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1),Wong(2).................................3.5

Pirates - Andersen(2.5)............................................................2.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5),Gomber(2).........................................2.5



Attaboy Ben!!! Could it be that I have been wrong about you all along?  A major league pitcher added to our rotation is a giant leap in the right direction.  Don't stop now,  get us a power hitting 1B and an OF.  You da man Ben!!!!!


If you changed your underpants as quickly as you change your opinions, the world would be a safer place.


Are you implying that Shedman has dirty drawers/  ;D


COVID isn't the only reason I stay six feet away from him on the golf course.

053B3E36253D3D361633243760520 wrote:

Cherington is starting to look like a one and done guy.


The team is minus Chris Archer, Trevor Williams, Jameson Taillon, Joe Musgrove. Now, with the pickup, have they improved the starting rotation or not? Consider Taillon and Archer have to still prove they have successfully recovered from injury, Williams appeared to never have from two seasons ago. Musgrove and Anderson were each given a 2.5 by the esteemed panel.



Is a potential rotation of Anderson, Keller, Brault, Brubaker, and a question mark better than, equal to, or less than one that could have been Archer, Taillon, Musgrove, and probably Keller, and a question mark? All things considered, including injury.



If I gave you one set of four, disregarding the question mark for the 5th guy, which set are you taking?
Do you mean my best four of all those mentioned above?
I was asking Shed, but to answer your question, one group or the other, not choosing between the two. Basically, what we have now versus what we had before all the trades/releases.