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Joel Hanrahan

Jason Grilli

Mark Melancon

David Bednar

Francisco Liriano

AJ Burnett

Edinson Volquez



See? You all make it out like something is wrong with the Pirates "development". How'd these guys get turned around from their previous organizations?



Every team has a slew of players that they gave up on, and flourished somewhere else.



The Archer trade has magnified things in peoples minds. You're all raving about Chad Kuhl. We have Chad Kuhl, he's pitching today, Zach Thompson.



Step out of Yinzer-centric thinking, and you'll see, nothing to see here.

624443565F5344525A310 wrote: Joel Hanrahan

Jason Grilli

Mark Melancon

David Bednar

Francisco Liriano

AJ Burnett

Edinson Volquez



See? You all make it out like something is wrong with the Pirates "development".  How'd these guys get turned around from their previous organizations?



Every team has a slew of players that they gave up on, and flourished somewhere else.



The Archer trade has magnified things in peoples minds. You're all raving about Chad Kuhl. We have Chad Kuhl, he's pitching today, Zach Thompson.



Step out of Yinzer-centric thinking, and you'll see, nothing to see here.
i would say you have a very good point here.

597F786D64687F69610A0 wrote: Joel Hanrahan

Jason Grilli

Mark Melancon

David Bednar

Francisco Liriano

AJ Burnett

Edinson Volquez



See? You all make it out like something is wrong with the Pirates "development".  How'd these guys get turned around from their previous organizations?



Every team has a slew of players that they gave up on, and flourished somewhere else.



The Archer trade has magnified things in peoples minds. You're all raving about Chad Kuhl. We have Chad Kuhl, he's pitching today, Zach Thompson.



Step out of Yinzer-centric thinking, and you'll see, nothing to see here.


Your list pales in comparison. Plus Hanrahan , Grilli , Melancon and Burnette all came to the Pirates around a decade ago. The only pitcher you list that matches up "time wise " is Bednar.

292E3F2C3F6E635A0 wrote: Joel Hanrahan

Jason Grilli

Mark Melancon

David Bednar

Francisco Liriano

AJ Burnett

Edinson Volquez



See? You all make it out like something is wrong with the Pirates "development".  How'd these guys get turned around from their previous organizations?



Every team has a slew of players that they gave up on, and flourished somewhere else.



The Archer trade has magnified things in peoples minds. You're all raving about Chad Kuhl. We have Chad Kuhl, he's pitching today, Zach Thompson.



Step out of Yinzer-centric thinking, and you'll see, nothing to see here.


Your list pales in comparison. Plus Hanrahan , Grilli , Melancon and Burnette all came to the Pirates around a decade ago. The only pitcher you list that matches up "time wise " is Bednar.


I'm sorry, I must have not read the rules. What difference does it make time wise? My list doesn't pale in comparison, btw. I'm simply pointing out that this thread is typical yinzeresque, thinking the Pirates are the only team that has given up on players who did well elsewhere. Hell, throw in Charlie Morton then.

I dnk enough about the Padres to know if they gave up on Bednar.  They wanted a SP, and the were willing to trade a RP to get him.



It takes a guy to get a guy.

331512070E0215030B600 wrote: Joel Hanrahan

Jason Grilli

Mark Melancon

David Bednar

Francisco Liriano

AJ Burnett

Edinson Volquez



See? You all make it out like something is wrong with the Pirates "development".  How'd these guys get turned around from their previous organizations?



Every team has a slew of players that they gave up on, and flourished somewhere else.



The Archer trade has magnified things in peoples minds. You're all raving about Chad Kuhl. We have Chad Kuhl, he's pitching today, Zach Thompson.



Step out of Yinzer-centric thinking, and you'll see, nothing to see here.


Your list pales in comparison. Plus Hanrahan , Grilli , Melancon and Burnette all came to the Pirates around a decade ago. The only pitcher you list that matches up "time wise " is Bednar.


I'm sorry, I must have not read the rules. What difference does it make time wise? My list doesn't pale in comparison, btw. I'm simply pointing out that this thread is typical yinzeresque, thinking the Pirates are the only team that has given up on players who did well elsewhere. Hell, throw in Charlie Morton then.


Charlie Morton was not on my list as he's not a #1 or #2 starter as are the others that I listed. I do think the time element is relevant. Surprised you didn't bring up how Jim Bibby pitched well when he came over to the Pirates 45 years ago. Also I never said the Pirates were the only team in baseball that gave up on a player that did well with another team.

Is Bryse Wilson on anyone's list?

073225252E1725252E2925400 wrote: Is Bryse Wilson on anyone's list?
He's on the Cardinals' list of BP pitchers.

3037263526777A430 wrote: Can you imagine a staff like this ?



1) Cole

2) Tallion

3) Glasnow

4) Musgrove

5) Baz


Maybe you should have added Tyler Anderson who is now 8-0 as a Dodger and just missed throwing a no hitter against the Angels tonight

I thought that it was a mistake to dump that guy. I hope for our sake that he wanted to leave.