OnlyBucs

I've spent the season reading everyone's comments, and the well stated concerns, about starting pitching going forward.

Consensus seems to believe that Keller and Contreras are keepers moving forward with some lukewarm support for Brubaker and Wilson.It doesn't sound like there are many arms in the minors ready for prime time.

That being stated, here are the upcoming free agents available this year.

How many of these guys are viable candidates to become a Pirate?

Truthfully, unless someone like Lorenzen or Zach Davies is at the right price, there is not much there. Matt Harvey? Would you want him after the Tyler Skaggs incident? Anyone for Chris Archer part 2? I don't think so.



Anyway, open for discussion.



David Price 37

Chris Sale 33

Jacob deGrom 34

Justin Verlander 39

Carlos Rodon 30

Noah Syndergaard 30

Charlie Morton 39

Adam Wainwright 41

Nathan Eovaldi 32

Clayton Kershaw 34

Zack Greinke 38

Carlos Carrasco 35

Aaron Nola 29

Sonny Gray 33

Luis Severino 29

Sean Manaea 30

Kyle Gibson 35

Mike Minor 35

Chris Bassitt 34

Andrew Heaney 31

Tyler Anderson 33

Corey Kluber 36

Jake Odorizzi 32

Taijuan Walker 30

Wade Miley 36

Michael Wacha 31

Michael Lorenzen 31

Jameson Taillon 31

Mike Clevinger 32

Drew Smyly 33

Matt Boyd 32

Rich Hill 43

Johnny Cueto 37

Martin Perez 31

Ross Stripling 33

Chris Archer 34

Kohei Arihara 30

Josh Lindblom 35

Chad Kuhl 30

Vincent Velasquez 30

Matt Moore 33

Joe Ross 29

Jose Quintana 34

Anibal Sanchez 38

Zach Davies 30

Matt Harvey 33

Erasmo Ramirez 32

Jose Urena 31

Aaron Sanchez 30

Shelby Miller 32

Alex Meyer 33

J.C. Ramirez 34

Dan Straily 34

5B706768110 wrote: I've spent the season reading everyone's comments, and the well stated concerns, about starting pitching going forward.

Consensus seems to believe that Keller and Contreras are keepers moving forward with some lukewarm support for Brubaker and Wilson.It doesn't sound like there are many arms in the minors ready for prime time.

That being stated, here are the upcoming free agents available this year.

How many of these guys are viable candidates to become a Pirate?

Truthfully, unless someone like Lorenzen or Zach Davies is at the right price, there is not much there. Matt Harvey? Would you want him after the Tyler Skaggs incident? Anyone for Chris Archer part 2? I don't think so.



Anyway, open for discussion.



David Price 37

Chris Sale         33

Jacob deGrom 34

Justin Verlander  39

Carlos Rodon 30

Noah Syndergaard 30

Charlie Morton 39

Adam Wainwright 41

Nathan Eovaldi 32

Clayton Kershaw 34

Zack Greinke 38

Carlos Carrasco 35

Aaron Nola 29

Sonny Gray 33

Luis Severino 29

Sean Manaea 30

Kyle Gibson 35

Mike Minor 35

Chris Bassitt 34

Andrew Heaney 31

Tyler Anderson 33

Corey Kluber 36

Jake Odorizzi 32

Taijuan Walker 30

Wade Miley 36

Michael Wacha 31

Michael Lorenzen 31

Jameson Taillon 31

Mike Clevinger 32

Drew Smyly 33

Matt Boyd 32

Rich Hill         43

Johnny Cueto 37

Martin Perez 31

Ross Stripling 33

Chris Archer 34

Kohei Arihara 30

Josh Lindblom 35

Chad Kuhl 30

Vincent Velasquez 30

Matt Moore 33

Joe Ross         29

Jose Quintana 34

Anibal Sanchez 38

Zach Davies 30

Matt Harvey 33

Erasmo Ramirez  32

Jose Urena 31

Aaron Sanchez 30

Shelby Miller 32

Alex Meyer 33

J.C. Ramirez 34

Dan Straily 34
Great to see you Javy. You have been conspicuous by your absence

Cherington's rebuild is looking shaky as hell, from what I can see.



Priester, Burrows, Peguero, N. Gonzales, Matt Fraizier, Gorski, Swaggerty etc. etc.--there's really no guarantee any of them will stick in the major leagues, let alone excel there.



Endy looks like as close to a sure thing as we've got, but he can't save the team by himself. I assume H. Davis and Termarr Johnson will be good (in some far-off future) but even that's no guarantee.



If we're ever going to be good again it can't just be youngsters getting called up. They'll have to supplement with free-agent vets. Cherington has said the money for free agents will be there "when the time is right" but he's patient to a fault and he may have 2031 in mind.

assuming Cruz is the SS of the future and Castro will have a place on this team, does that not allow for some of the 20 middle infielders that are essentially blocked to be used as trade bait?  Why not trade them while they still have an unknown future value rather than they languish in the minors until they are of no value?