I've spent the season reading everyone's comments, and the well stated concerns, about starting pitching going forward.
Consensus seems to believe that Keller and Contreras are keepers moving forward with some lukewarm support for Brubaker and Wilson.It doesn't sound like there are many arms in the minors ready for prime time.
That being stated, here are the upcoming free agents available this year.
How many of these guys are viable candidates to become a Pirate?
Truthfully, unless someone like Lorenzen or Zach Davies is at the right price, there is not much there. Matt Harvey? Would you want him after the Tyler Skaggs incident? Anyone for Chris Archer part 2? I don't think so.
Anyway, open for discussion.
David Price 37
Chris Sale 33
Jacob deGrom 34
Justin Verlander 39
Carlos Rodon 30
Noah Syndergaard 30
Charlie Morton 39
Adam Wainwright 41
Nathan Eovaldi 32
Clayton Kershaw 34
Zack Greinke 38
Carlos Carrasco 35
Aaron Nola 29
Sonny Gray 33
Luis Severino 29
Sean Manaea 30
Kyle Gibson 35
Mike Minor 35
Chris Bassitt 34
Andrew Heaney 31
Tyler Anderson 33
Corey Kluber 36
Jake Odorizzi 32
Taijuan Walker 30
Wade Miley 36
Michael Wacha 31
Michael Lorenzen 31
Jameson Taillon 31
Mike Clevinger 32
Drew Smyly 33
Matt Boyd 32
Rich Hill 43
Johnny Cueto 37
Martin Perez 31
Ross Stripling 33
Chris Archer 34
Kohei Arihara 30
Josh Lindblom 35
Chad Kuhl 30
Vincent Velasquez 30
Matt Moore 33
Joe Ross 29
Jose Quintana 34
Anibal Sanchez 38
Zach Davies 30
Matt Harvey 33
Erasmo Ramirez 32
Jose Urena 31
Aaron Sanchez 30
Shelby Miller 32
Alex Meyer 33
J.C. Ramirez 34
Dan Straily 34
2023 Roster
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WildwoodDave2
2023 Roster
5B706768110 wrote: I've spent the season reading everyone's comments, and the well stated concerns, about starting pitching going forward.
Consensus seems to believe that Keller and Contreras are keepers moving forward with some lukewarm support for Brubaker and Wilson.It doesn't sound like there are many arms in the minors ready for prime time.
That being stated, here are the upcoming free agents available this year.
How many of these guys are viable candidates to become a Pirate?
Truthfully, unless someone like Lorenzen or Zach Davies is at the right price, there is not much there. Matt Harvey? Would you want him after the Tyler Skaggs incident? Anyone for Chris Archer part 2? I don't think so.
Anyway, open for discussion.
David Price 37
Chris Sale 33
Jacob deGrom 34
Justin Verlander 39
Carlos Rodon 30
Noah Syndergaard 30
Charlie Morton 39
Adam Wainwright 41
Nathan Eovaldi 32
Clayton Kershaw 34
Zack Greinke 38
Carlos Carrasco 35
Aaron Nola 29
Sonny Gray 33
Luis Severino 29
Sean Manaea 30
Kyle Gibson 35
Mike Minor 35
Chris Bassitt 34
Andrew Heaney 31
Tyler Anderson 33
Corey Kluber 36
Jake Odorizzi 32
Taijuan Walker 30
Wade Miley 36
Michael Wacha 31
Michael Lorenzen 31
Jameson Taillon 31
Mike Clevinger 32
Drew Smyly 33
Matt Boyd 32
Rich Hill 43
Johnny Cueto 37
Martin Perez 31
Ross Stripling 33
Chris Archer 34
Kohei Arihara 30
Josh Lindblom 35
Chad Kuhl 30
Vincent Velasquez 30
Matt Moore 33
Joe Ross 29
Jose Quintana 34
Anibal Sanchez 38
Zach Davies 30
Matt Harvey 33
Erasmo Ramirez 32
Jose Urena 31
Aaron Sanchez 30
Shelby Miller 32
Alex Meyer 33
J.C. Ramirez 34
Dan Straily 34
Great to see you Javy. You have been conspicuous by your absence
Consensus seems to believe that Keller and Contreras are keepers moving forward with some lukewarm support for Brubaker and Wilson.It doesn't sound like there are many arms in the minors ready for prime time.
That being stated, here are the upcoming free agents available this year.
How many of these guys are viable candidates to become a Pirate?
Truthfully, unless someone like Lorenzen or Zach Davies is at the right price, there is not much there. Matt Harvey? Would you want him after the Tyler Skaggs incident? Anyone for Chris Archer part 2? I don't think so.
Anyway, open for discussion.
David Price 37
Chris Sale 33
Jacob deGrom 34
Justin Verlander 39
Carlos Rodon 30
Noah Syndergaard 30
Charlie Morton 39
Adam Wainwright 41
Nathan Eovaldi 32
Clayton Kershaw 34
Zack Greinke 38
Carlos Carrasco 35
Aaron Nola 29
Sonny Gray 33
Luis Severino 29
Sean Manaea 30
Kyle Gibson 35
Mike Minor 35
Chris Bassitt 34
Andrew Heaney 31
Tyler Anderson 33
Corey Kluber 36
Jake Odorizzi 32
Taijuan Walker 30
Wade Miley 36
Michael Wacha 31
Michael Lorenzen 31
Jameson Taillon 31
Mike Clevinger 32
Drew Smyly 33
Matt Boyd 32
Rich Hill 43
Johnny Cueto 37
Martin Perez 31
Ross Stripling 33
Chris Archer 34
Kohei Arihara 30
Josh Lindblom 35
Chad Kuhl 30
Vincent Velasquez 30
Matt Moore 33
Joe Ross 29
Jose Quintana 34
Anibal Sanchez 38
Zach Davies 30
Matt Harvey 33
Erasmo Ramirez 32
Jose Urena 31
Aaron Sanchez 30
Shelby Miller 32
Alex Meyer 33
J.C. Ramirez 34
Dan Straily 34
Great to see you Javy. You have been conspicuous by your absence
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maher.timothy20@gm
2023 Roster
Cherington's rebuild is looking shaky as hell, from what I can see.
Priester, Burrows, Peguero, N. Gonzales, Matt Fraizier, Gorski, Swaggerty etc. etc.--there's really no guarantee any of them will stick in the major leagues, let alone excel there.
Endy looks like as close to a sure thing as we've got, but he can't save the team by himself. I assume H. Davis and Termarr Johnson will be good (in some far-off future) but even that's no guarantee.
If we're ever going to be good again it can't just be youngsters getting called up. They'll have to supplement with free-agent vets. Cherington has said the money for free agents will be there "when the time is right" but he's patient to a fault and he may have 2031 in mind.
Priester, Burrows, Peguero, N. Gonzales, Matt Fraizier, Gorski, Swaggerty etc. etc.--there's really no guarantee any of them will stick in the major leagues, let alone excel there.
Endy looks like as close to a sure thing as we've got, but he can't save the team by himself. I assume H. Davis and Termarr Johnson will be good (in some far-off future) but even that's no guarantee.
If we're ever going to be good again it can't just be youngsters getting called up. They'll have to supplement with free-agent vets. Cherington has said the money for free agents will be there "when the time is right" but he's patient to a fault and he may have 2031 in mind.
2023 Roster
assuming Cruz is the SS of the future and Castro will have a place on this team, does that not allow for some of the 20 middle infielders that are essentially blocked to be used as trade bait? Why not trade them while they still have an unknown future value rather than they languish in the minors until they are of no value?