The results are in on the Caminero Trade . . .
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:01 pm
7B5C4D5E4D1911111019280 wrote: Yes actually I am. Nova was bad, plus he's a 2-month rental. He should have brought almost nothing in return, which is about what Caminero did.
Caminero was just as bad and a relief pitcher.
true but remember how valuable years of control are.
Years of control aren't all the valuable and shorter when a player is borderline replacement level. Can you honestly see Caminero getting tendered more than once at this point? I can't. I don't think you can really view Caminero as having more than a year or two of control beyond this one. Better stated, I don't think you can place much value on those final two years at this point. Personally, I think the Pirates got about what I would have expected. Pedro Vasquez is pretty interesting. Good size and success for level at a young age to where he could still be projectable. Already throwing in the low 90's according to FG. I'll be excited if the Pirates move him to Bradenton next year.
Nova's already provide .6 fWAR to the Pirates. Caminero may not yield that the rest of his career. I think given the market you have to expect the difference in return between the two.
I thought the same thing. His control is very good for being so young. He just doesn't get Ks. You know that Gayo's recommendations were sure to have been considered in selecting him.
Caminero was just as bad and a relief pitcher.
true but remember how valuable years of control are.
Years of control aren't all the valuable and shorter when a player is borderline replacement level. Can you honestly see Caminero getting tendered more than once at this point? I can't. I don't think you can really view Caminero as having more than a year or two of control beyond this one. Better stated, I don't think you can place much value on those final two years at this point. Personally, I think the Pirates got about what I would have expected. Pedro Vasquez is pretty interesting. Good size and success for level at a young age to where he could still be projectable. Already throwing in the low 90's according to FG. I'll be excited if the Pirates move him to Bradenton next year.
Nova's already provide .6 fWAR to the Pirates. Caminero may not yield that the rest of his career. I think given the market you have to expect the difference in return between the two.
I thought the same thing. His control is very good for being so young. He just doesn't get Ks. You know that Gayo's recommendations were sure to have been considered in selecting him.