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68M Opening day salary

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:20 pm
by gileszee
Nutting could still drop 35 mil a year to Machado and not be anywhere near the top payrolls in baseball. Sad.

68M Opening day salary

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:38 pm
by notes34
040A0F0610190606630 wrote: Nutting could still drop 35 mil a year to Machado and not be anywhere near the top payrolls in baseball.  Sad.
Or even the median payrolls at this point.

68M Opening day salary

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:19 pm
by DemDog
One question about this payroll stuff. Say the Bucs sign Machado for #30 mil a year. With cheapskate Nutting pull the purse strings what does that mean to the good Bucs players that will become FAs or have salary increases due to arbitration in the future? With all the money going to Machado I would bet that Nutting will not spend on anything else.



Besides, does Machado put is over the top and make us an instant top contender not just for the NL Central but the whole WS shebang? Not in the least. I pass on Machado and Harper and go after some other top line FA or 2 first.

68M Opening day salary

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:23 pm
by SammyKhalifa
I think they could offer a jillion brazillion dollars to machado and he would not come here. But him aside, I fully expect them to get a SS. I also want a SP but I get the impression that is not going to happen.

68M Opening day salary

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:07 pm
by SCBucco
65677D7B6D080 wrote: They seem to be looking at shortstops. Whether that person gets pencilled in as a starter or protection backup remains to be seen, but I would expect them to sign someone (with modest salary demands and likely a one-year shelf life).


TBH, I'm not sure they seem to be looking at anything.

68M Opening day salary

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:02 pm
by UtahPirate
Our old board member Wilbur had an article on this topic today. The trend lines he comes up with are pretty interesting:



https://www.bucsdugout.com/2019/1/14/18 ... omparisons

68M Opening day salary

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:11 pm
by mouse
That is an interesting article.

68M Opening day salary

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:59 pm
by Bobster21
Good article. Wilbur factually presents what most of us have believed all along. His conclusion says it all.



"The inescapable conclusion is that, unlike the rest of their peer group, the Pirates don’t base their payroll even partially on the team’s on-field needs. It’s strictly dictated by the profit margin that ownership mandates."

68M Opening day salary

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:51 pm
by MaineBucs
Geez --- That conclusion really makes me feel really giddy about the upcoming season.



I feel myself trending toward being a more frequent management basher.

68M Opening day salary

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:33 pm
by PMike
0F232B2C2700372131420 wrote: Geez --- That conclusion really makes me feel really giddy about the upcoming season. 



I feel myself trending toward being a more frequent management basher.    


It's not a management thing. It's a ownership thing. This all lies on Bob Nutting and the others in the investment group. This article is just another piece that articulates that distinction.