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Diaz Non Tendered

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:14 pm
by Ecbucs
595B414751340 wrote: The projected Arb value for Gonzales (per MLBTR) was $800,000. If he signed for less, he's getting close to league minimum. I did like him at third. If he can keep hitting more as he did toward the end of the season, he would be my choice for there, at least in the short run.




If he can continue with bat he could be a good choice at third. He did have big splits between left and right handed pitchers and his career oba makes me think he is a utility player. But the Bucs can afford to find out if he can do more.



If he does he becomes a prime trade candidate as he would have only two more years of control. His career splits have him hitting slightly better against right handers.

Diaz Non Tendered

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:35 pm
by fjk090852-7
785E5F485E4E3D0 wrote: The projected Arb value for Gonzales (per MLBTR) was $800,000. If he signed for less, he's getting close to league minimum. I did like him at third. If he can keep hitting more as he did toward the end of the season, he would be my choice for there, at least in the short run.




If he can continue with bat he could be a good choice at third.  He did have big splits between left and right handed pitchers and his career oba makes me think he is a utility player.  But the Bucs can afford to find out if he can do more. 



If he does he becomes a prime trade candidate as he would have only two more years of control.  His career splits have him hitting slightly better against right handers.
Possibly they may play him at third while Hayes develops a little more at AAA, and in the meantime deal Moran.

Diaz Non Tendered

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:40 pm
by DemDog
4844451E171E161B1C03192E0 wrote: The projected Arb value for Gonzales (per MLBTR) was $800,000. If he signed for less, he's getting close to league minimum. I did like him at third. If he can keep hitting more as he did toward the end of the season, he would be my choice for there, at least in the short run.




If he can continue with bat he could be a good choice at third.  He did have big splits between left and right handed pitchers and his career oba makes me think he is a utility player.  But the Bucs can afford to find out if he can do more. 



If he does he becomes a prime trade candidate as he would have only two more years of control.  His career splits have him hitting slightly better against right handers.
Possibly they may play him at third while Hayes develops a little more at AAA, and in the meantime deal Moran.


Good idea with one caveat. Moran is not worth the price of a beer at PNC. In other words, a team like the Bucs trying to trade a player of Moran's caliber aren't getting any type of real prospect or maybe a AAAA pitcher.

Diaz Non Tendered

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:53 pm
by SyrBucco
I'm truly surprised at this. Usually you don't give up on a player after one bad year, especially at a position of weakness.



This is the first move by Cherington that I would question. He's clearly not afraid to dump players that played a meaningful role in 2019 for little or no return. First Agrazal, now Diaz. Who would have thought this after 2018?

Diaz Non Tendered

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:00 pm
by SCBucco
09282009222A4D0 wrote: The projected Arb value for Gonzales (per MLBTR) was $800,000. If he signed for less, he's getting close to league minimum. I did like him at third. If he can keep hitting more as he did toward the end of the season, he would be my choice for there, at least in the short run.




If he can continue with bat he could be a good choice at third.  He did have big splits between left and right handed pitchers and his career oba makes me think he is a utility player.  But the Bucs can afford to find out if he can do more. 



If he does he becomes a prime trade candidate as he would have only two more years of control.  His career splits have him hitting slightly better against right handers.
Possibly they may play him at third while Hayes develops a little more at AAA, and in the meantime deal Moran.


Good idea with one caveat.  Moran is not worth the price of a beer at PNC.  In other words, a team like the Bucs trying to trade a player of Moran's caliber aren't getting any type of real prospect or maybe a AAAA pitcher.


Trade for Moran or sign Travis Shaw?

Diaz Non Tendered

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:12 pm
by SyrBucco
Continuing to chew on the Diaz non-tender:



First we hire former Twin Shelton. Then we non-tender Diaz. It won't surprise me one bit if the Pirates' next starting catcher is Jason Castro, who caught for the Twins last year.



The other possibility is that my dream of trading for Reese McGuire comes true, with newly hired ex-Blue Jays scouting director Steve Sanders sharing my vision.



But I'll bet on Castro.



More than ever, I want to pick one of Philadelphia's catchers in the Rule 5. Rafael Marchan (their 13th ranked prospect) and Rodolfo Duran (their 17th) were left unprotected for the Rule 5 by the catching-rich Phillies.

Diaz Non Tendered

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:17 pm
by SCBucco
587279497E6868640B0 wrote: Continuing to chew on the Diaz non-tender:



First we hire former Twin Shelton. Then we non-tender Diaz. It won't surprise me one bit if the Pirates' next starting catcher is Jason Castro, who caught for the Twins last year.



The other possibility is that my dream of trading for Reese McGuire comes true, with newly hired ex-Blue Jays scouting director Steve Sanders sharing my vision.



But I'll bet on Castro.



More than ever, I want to pick one of Philadelphia's catchers in the Rule 5. Rafael Marchan (their 13th ranked prospect) and Rodolfo Duran (their 17th) were left unprotected for the Rule 5 by the catching-rich Phillies.


I can see Castro or Austin Romine. Caleb Joseph might be a kick the tires type of player.

Diaz Non Tendered

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:25 pm
by fjk090852-7
With only a single catcher on the roster, I am sure Ben Cherington has spoken to an agent or another GM about acquiring someone. My guess by the time the Winter Meetings end next Thursday there will be another catcher on the 40 man roster.

Diaz Non Tendered

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:28 pm
by SammyKhalifa
3C30316A636A626F68776D5A0 wrote: With only a single catcher on the roster, I am sure Ben Cherington has spoken to an agent or another GM about acquiring someone. My guess by the time the Winter Meetings end next Thursday there will be another catcher on the 40 man roster.
Even if you don't like everything that's happening (though I think most people do), it's certainly not a dull off-season!

Diaz Non Tendered

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:46 pm
by Ecbucs
1A2824243002212825202F28490 wrote: With only a single catcher on the roster, I am sure Ben Cherington has spoken to an agent or another GM about acquiring someone. My guess by the time the Winter Meetings end next Thursday there will be another catcher on the 40 man roster.
Even if you don't like everything that's happening (though I think most people do), it's certainly not a dull off-season!


This could be Colin Moran's chance. He might have average speed for a catcher.