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I think one of the things they're doing is just trying to keep as many parks as possible in the system in some way. It stops others from starting new leagues. and it keeps congressmen in those districts from starting antitrust investigations.

0794A5657545C6A574C504B4C5D5156380 wrote: I think one of the things they're doing is just trying to keep as many parks as possible in the system in some way. It stops others from starting new leagues.  and it keeps congressmen in those districts from starting antitrust investigations.
And it provides jobs for those who work at those parks.

4D555750504756514C4D5B3E0 wrote: Good news for people living within range of a former Penn League team -- https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/304 ... -prospects



Possum and I will be able to scout the top prospects. This should put some pressure on those ML scouts.




This is interesting, and yet another way MLB is cutting costs and a way for them to avoid paying fair wages.



How do you think this will put pressure on the scouts?  They will have centralized locations to watch the players instead of having to travel all over to find them.  I suppose that will still be a thing for most teams, since there will be players not in the league.



This also seems to be an effort for MLB to force HS players into the college. To participate in this league, players will have to give up their college eligibility. This also eliminates any leverage players would have in negotiations, which I am sure is also MLB plan.



Which does bring up the question of who would play in this league?  I doubt most HS players or JC players would participate, unless they are 100% sure they are going pro. Obviously top tier college players will not all be in, since their teams could still be playing. Could be a big help for smaller college players and seniors.  Of course can also hurt players that might have been drafted without it if they play terrible.
Seems like the way things go in todays world the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.  I'm not a fan of socialism but seems the overpaid stars should give back to the game somehow.  There needs to be a more healthy balance.  Owners should concentrate more on younger players and less on the multi million dollar players.


This is more on the owners than the players, they are reducing costs down by penny pinching on the minor leagues, all due to pressure on them to pay fair wages. Good Ole Bob Nutting paid the usual lip service about how he was going to look into it and do something, but never did. I am sure he will want to expanding the DR facility with more teams to avoid paying more expensive players.



Of course, the union should share some blame, since they let this happen.

50637F7E7D75437E6579626574787F110 wrote: I think one of the things they're doing is just trying to keep as many parks as possible in the system in some way. It stops others from starting new leagues.  and it keeps congressmen in those districts from starting antitrust investigations. They are definitely not interested in that. They are actively trying to eliminate as many teams as they can.

53747D7D74676474536472110 wrote: Good news for people living within range of a former Penn League team -- https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/304 ... -prospects



Possum and I will be able to scout the top prospects. This should put some pressure on those ML scouts.




This is interesting, and yet another way MLB is cutting costs and a way for them to avoid paying fair wages.



How do you think this will put pressure on the scouts?  They will have centralized locations to watch the players instead of having to travel all over to find them.  I suppose that will still be a thing for most teams, since there will be players not in the league.



This also seems to be an effort for MLB to force HS players into the college. To participate in this league, players will have to give up their college eligibility. This also eliminates any leverage players would have in negotiations, which I am sure is also MLB plan.



Which does bring up the question of who would play in this league?  I doubt most HS players or JC players would participate, unless they are 100% sure they are going pro. Obviously top tier college players will not all be in, since their teams could still be playing. Could be a big help for smaller college players and seniors.  Of course can also hurt players that might have been drafted without it if they play terrible.
Seems like the way things go in todays world the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.  I'm not a fan of socialism but seems the overpaid stars should give back to the game somehow.  There needs to be a more healthy balance.  Owners should concentrate more on younger players and less on the multi million dollar players.


This is more on the owners than the players, they are reducing costs down by penny pinching on the minor leagues, all due to pressure on them to pay fair wages.  Good Ole Bob Nutting paid the usual lip service about how he was going to look into it and do something, but never did. I am sure he will want to expanding the DR facility with more teams to avoid paying more expensive players.



Of course, the union should share some blame, since they let this happen.


I couldn't disagree more, players are as selfish as the owners maybe even more because there more rich players than owners. MLB players association should have agreed to a salary cap like other professional leagues but for pure greed they would have. It's shameful how out of control these salaries are. It is unaffordable for most middle class families anymore to attend a game. They should be ashamed of their selves.

4D555750504756514C4D5B3E0 wrote:

I couldn't disagree more, players are as selfish as the owners maybe even more because there more rich players than owners.  MLB players association should have agreed to a salary cap like other professional leagues but for pure greed they would have.  It's shameful how out of control these salaries are.  It is unaffordable for most middle class families anymore to attend a game.  They should be ashamed of their selves.


Except the players have nothing to do with the downsizing of minor league baseball, so it makes zero sense to say they are to blame.



You are also completely wrong about the salary cap, owners do not want it.  Players are not even getting their fair share of revenues now, so again, wrong about salaries out of control. If anything, they are not high enough.  A salary cap will require owners to admit how much revenue they are bringing in and share it fairly with the players. It will also require more revenue sharing, since the cap would be close to $160-$180M. You think Bob Nutting wants that?



The baseball season should have been at least 100 games this year, but the owners refused, so they could maximize their profits and have an extended playoffs free of charge.

Per Baseball America, offers to be one of the 120 "licensed" minor league teams will go out today. There will then be further negotiation, and it may be February before it's formally announced what teams are in and what leagues they'll play in:



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.baseba ... %3famphtml

70435F5E5D55635E4559424554585F310 wrote: Per Baseball America, offers to be one of the 120 "licensed" minor league teams will go out today.  There will then be further negotiation, and it may be February before it's formally announced what teams are in and what leagues they'll play in:



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.baseba ... %3famphtml






Keep us posted Babe.

0F3C2021222A1C213A263D3A2B27204E0 wrote: Per Baseball America, offers to be one of the 120 "licensed" minor league teams will go out today.  There will then be further negotiation, and it may be February before it's formally announced what teams are in and what leagues they'll play in:



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.baseba ... %3famphtml






https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories ... s-in-2021/



https://www.mlb.com/news/new-minor-leag ... s-for-2021



BA has the full list, most of which is public now on the MLB site, no changes for the Pirates as far as locations, excluding the elimination of Morgantown and Bristol. Based on the other affiliations, seems like Bradenton would move to Low A and Greensboro to High A, which makes sense. Indy will be AAA and Altoona AA. Seems likely the Pirates add another GCL team unless there is a mandated roster cap.



Only 119 out of 120 because there is an issue with the Fresno team. The Grizzles were the AAA affiliate for the Nationals, but in some swapping of teams, they were left without an affiliate. The Rockies are the only team without 4 full season teams, but the Fresno team would have to move down from AAA to A ball.

Also, the Fredrick Keys will be the 6th team in the MLB Draft League.