one thing to remember about Anderson that while he has been around awhile he doesn't have a lot of experience.
He only has pitched 483 major league innings and is 31.
Brault is 29 and has pitched 315 major league innings.
Both first reached the majors in 2016.
Sign Tyler Anderson
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GreenWeenie
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Sign Tyler Anderson
517C71606776612122130 wrote: Just a thought with him doing well it reminds me of when we had JA Happ and let him walk and he goes on to pitch well for years and is still pitching.
What's your thoughts on signing him to a reasonable contract for a few years?
We have no lefties other than Brault with any promise near ready for the majors and I think Tyler can be a mentor and productive when the kids get here.
At 24 and 29, I want my kids to be mentored by someone else. I just do.
Bad teams. How much isn't his doing vs. how much is his doing is open for debate,
Still, I want guys who get it done.
I don't dwell on mentors. Nice when we have them. But, that's what coaches are paid to do. I want my pitchers to win baseball games. After they do that, then I'll take the gravy.
I think there is value to younger pitchers getting advice from experienced pitchers who have enjoyed success. A,J. Burnett was such a pitcher. Gerrit Cole attributed advice from Verlander and Keuchel in Houston for his progression to a higher level of pitching. But I don't see Tyler Anderson's very modest, at best, career as a source of great knowledge for developing pitchers.
I agree that less experienced players (regardless of position) can obain value from winning players.
Anderson isn't Burnett, or anywhere close to Burnett. So, I don't think that's an equal comparison. But, yes, when a winning performer is willing to share information that can make the difference betwen good performance and ordinary performance, I'm all for it. Anderson needs a mentor as much as anyone, until he chalks up a winning record himself. I want guys learning from guys who beat the competition.
Do I think we should sign the guy for a longer run? Not sure that I'd go out of my way to. Depends on what he asks for.
What's your thoughts on signing him to a reasonable contract for a few years?
We have no lefties other than Brault with any promise near ready for the majors and I think Tyler can be a mentor and productive when the kids get here.
At 24 and 29, I want my kids to be mentored by someone else. I just do.
Bad teams. How much isn't his doing vs. how much is his doing is open for debate,
Still, I want guys who get it done.
I don't dwell on mentors. Nice when we have them. But, that's what coaches are paid to do. I want my pitchers to win baseball games. After they do that, then I'll take the gravy.
I think there is value to younger pitchers getting advice from experienced pitchers who have enjoyed success. A,J. Burnett was such a pitcher. Gerrit Cole attributed advice from Verlander and Keuchel in Houston for his progression to a higher level of pitching. But I don't see Tyler Anderson's very modest, at best, career as a source of great knowledge for developing pitchers.
I agree that less experienced players (regardless of position) can obain value from winning players.
Anderson isn't Burnett, or anywhere close to Burnett. So, I don't think that's an equal comparison. But, yes, when a winning performer is willing to share information that can make the difference betwen good performance and ordinary performance, I'm all for it. Anderson needs a mentor as much as anyone, until he chalks up a winning record himself. I want guys learning from guys who beat the competition.
Do I think we should sign the guy for a longer run? Not sure that I'd go out of my way to. Depends on what he asks for.
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Bobster21
Sign Tyler Anderson
5E6B7C7C774E7C7C77707C190 wrote: Just a thought with him doing well it reminds me of when we had JA Happ and let him walk and he goes on to pitch well for years and is still pitching.
What's your thoughts on signing him to a reasonable contract for a few years?
We have no lefties other than Brault with any promise near ready for the majors and I think Tyler can be a mentor and productive when the kids get here.
At 24 and 29, I want my kids to be mentored by someone else. I just do.
Bad teams. How much isn't his doing vs. how much is his doing is open for debate,
Still, I want guys who get it done.
I don't dwell on mentors. Nice when we have them. But, that's what coaches are paid to do. I want my pitchers to win baseball games. After they do that, then I'll take the gravy.
I think there is value to younger pitchers getting advice from experienced pitchers who have enjoyed success. A,J. Burnett was such a pitcher. Gerrit Cole attributed advice from Verlander and Keuchel in Houston for his progression to a higher level of pitching. But I don't see Tyler Anderson's very modest, at best, career as a source of great knowledge for developing pitchers.
I agree that less experienced players (regardless of position) can obain value from winning players.
Anderson isn't Burnett, or anywhere close to Burnett. So, I don't think that's an equal comparison. But, yes, when a winning performer is willing to share information that can make the difference betwen good performance and ordinary performance, I'm all for it. Anderson needs a mentor as much as anyone, until he chalks up a winning record himself. I want guys learning from guys who beat the competition.
Do I think we should sign the guy for a longer run? Not sure that I'd go out of my way to. Depends on what he asks for.
That was my point. It's one thing to have a Burnett to give advice based on years of success. It's quite another thing to count on an average to below average career pitcher like Anderson to impart wisdom.
What's your thoughts on signing him to a reasonable contract for a few years?
We have no lefties other than Brault with any promise near ready for the majors and I think Tyler can be a mentor and productive when the kids get here.
At 24 and 29, I want my kids to be mentored by someone else. I just do.
Bad teams. How much isn't his doing vs. how much is his doing is open for debate,
Still, I want guys who get it done.
I don't dwell on mentors. Nice when we have them. But, that's what coaches are paid to do. I want my pitchers to win baseball games. After they do that, then I'll take the gravy.
I think there is value to younger pitchers getting advice from experienced pitchers who have enjoyed success. A,J. Burnett was such a pitcher. Gerrit Cole attributed advice from Verlander and Keuchel in Houston for his progression to a higher level of pitching. But I don't see Tyler Anderson's very modest, at best, career as a source of great knowledge for developing pitchers.
I agree that less experienced players (regardless of position) can obain value from winning players.
Anderson isn't Burnett, or anywhere close to Burnett. So, I don't think that's an equal comparison. But, yes, when a winning performer is willing to share information that can make the difference betwen good performance and ordinary performance, I'm all for it. Anderson needs a mentor as much as anyone, until he chalks up a winning record himself. I want guys learning from guys who beat the competition.
Do I think we should sign the guy for a longer run? Not sure that I'd go out of my way to. Depends on what he asks for.
That was my point. It's one thing to have a Burnett to give advice based on years of success. It's quite another thing to count on an average to below average career pitcher like Anderson to impart wisdom.
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skinnyhorse
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Sign Tyler Anderson
143934252233246467560 wrote: I'm glad Anderson has pitched well but it's only been 5 games and his history suggests he is not as good as he's looked so far this season. I know pitching for the Rockies inflates pitching stats but, surprisingly, he pitched better at home than away in his years with Colorado. I'd worry that they would extend him and then regret it. So I'd like to see a lot more from him before deciding to extend him.
I've seen enough of the guy to know he's the best we have and he's a left hander. We've given contracts to pitchers who had been declining for years and Anderson has pitched better than him (Acher) already. We don't need to give a 10 year contract to him but if he keeps pitching like he is teams are going to notice we need to get on him early. He's a lefty whose has control something I haven't seen that in a Pirate uniform in years. I'm so tired of seeing so called pitchers walking hitters or getting 3 and 0 and having to throw one down the middle. It's refreshing to see a guy throw pitches on the corners and get a head of hitters. I'd offer him now a 3 year 12 million with incentives right now. That's about what they gave Archer per year.
I've seen enough of the guy to know he's the best we have and he's a left hander. We've given contracts to pitchers who had been declining for years and Anderson has pitched better than him (Acher) already. We don't need to give a 10 year contract to him but if he keeps pitching like he is teams are going to notice we need to get on him early. He's a lefty whose has control something I haven't seen that in a Pirate uniform in years. I'm so tired of seeing so called pitchers walking hitters or getting 3 and 0 and having to throw one down the middle. It's refreshing to see a guy throw pitches on the corners and get a head of hitters. I'd offer him now a 3 year 12 million with incentives right now. That's about what they gave Archer per year.