The calliopes can be heard from here to Sewickley
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2drfischer@gmail.c
The calliopes can be heard from here to Sewickley
I was thinking today that this play may well be remembered into the future, after Merkle's Boner, to be the worst decision made by a player in major league history.
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Bobster21
The calliopes can be heard from here to Sewickley
033621212A1321212A2D21440 wrote: Regardless of minor league experience, Craig can no longer play at the MLB level. It's more than some "brain fart." We have former MLB players saying it. So have some of us.
It's a poor look and we know who to look at. It's more than one guy, but the buck stops and starts somewhere.
It's just that some choose to look the other way; excusing as a momentary mistake by one guy.
How many guys handled that ball? How many didn't communicate effectively? It's organizational, not individual.
Yeah, Craig needs to go. But I think more for his slow, weak swing that that one play. But since he needs to go anyway, now would be a good time to do it to show the whole team that such idiocy is unacceptable. And it is unbelievable that the whole team froze and no one apparently told the clueless Craig what to do. In baseball it's never a good idea to assume someone else knows what to do no matter how obvious it should be. When coaching a base, it's always good to remind the runner how many outs there are, whether to tag on a fly ball, etc even though it shouldn't be necessary. It shouldn't have been necessary to tell Craig to forget about chasing Baez and just go step on 1B. But at some point it was obvious he needed help and it looks like he didn't get any.
It's a poor look and we know who to look at. It's more than one guy, but the buck stops and starts somewhere.
It's just that some choose to look the other way; excusing as a momentary mistake by one guy.
How many guys handled that ball? How many didn't communicate effectively? It's organizational, not individual.
Yeah, Craig needs to go. But I think more for his slow, weak swing that that one play. But since he needs to go anyway, now would be a good time to do it to show the whole team that such idiocy is unacceptable. And it is unbelievable that the whole team froze and no one apparently told the clueless Craig what to do. In baseball it's never a good idea to assume someone else knows what to do no matter how obvious it should be. When coaching a base, it's always good to remind the runner how many outs there are, whether to tag on a fly ball, etc even though it shouldn't be necessary. It shouldn't have been necessary to tell Craig to forget about chasing Baez and just go step on 1B. But at some point it was obvious he needed help and it looks like he didn't get any.
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GreenWeenie
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The calliopes can be heard from here to Sewickley
1D3B3C29202C3B2D254E0 wrote: Regardless of minor league experience, Craig can no longer play at the MLB level. It's more than some "brain fart." We have former MLB players saying it. So have some of us.
It's a poor look and we know who to look at. It's more than one guy, but the buck stops and starts somewhere.
It's just that some choose to look the other way; excusing as a momentary mistake by one guy.
How many guys handled that ball? How many didn't communicate effectively? It's organizational, not individual.
Go check the Pirates site. You'll get your answer.
It was obviously rhetorical. We have plenty who are directly and indirectly responsible.
No one can change what transpired, of course. Let's see how it's prevented. That's more important, in my opinion.
It's a poor look and we know who to look at. It's more than one guy, but the buck stops and starts somewhere.
It's just that some choose to look the other way; excusing as a momentary mistake by one guy.
How many guys handled that ball? How many didn't communicate effectively? It's organizational, not individual.
Go check the Pirates site. You'll get your answer.
It was obviously rhetorical. We have plenty who are directly and indirectly responsible.
No one can change what transpired, of course. Let's see how it's prevented. That's more important, in my opinion.
The calliopes can be heard from here to Sewickley
"Oh, and yes, btw, we all hate Nutting, but..." There is that word "but" again.
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steve49
The calliopes can be heard from here to Sewickley
486568797E6F78383B0A0 wrote: Regardless of minor league experience, Craig can no longer play at the MLB level. It's more than some "brain fart." We have former MLB players saying it. So have some of us.
It's a poor look and we know who to look at. It's more than one guy, but the buck stops and starts somewhere.
It's just that some choose to look the other way; excusing as a momentary mistake by one guy.
How many guys handled that ball? How many didn't communicate effectively? It's organizational, not individual.
Yeah, Craig needs to go. But I think more for his slow, weak swing that that one play. But since he needs to go anyway, now would be a good time to do it to show the whole team that such idiocy is unacceptable. And it is unbelievable that the whole team froze and no one apparently told the clueless Craig what to do. In baseball it's never a good idea to assume someone else knows what to do no matter how obvious it should be. When coaching a base, it's always good to remind the runner how many outs there are, whether to tag on a fly ball, etc even though it shouldn't be necessary. It shouldn't have been necessary to tell Craig to forget about chasing Baez and just go step on 1B. But at some point it was obvious he needed help and it looks like he didn't get any.
Not looking for an excuse for Craig but as I watch that video closely , it could be that Perez was calling for the ball. If he knew what was going on , he should have walked up he line and assisted Craig ... no ?
It's a poor look and we know who to look at. It's more than one guy, but the buck stops and starts somewhere.
It's just that some choose to look the other way; excusing as a momentary mistake by one guy.
How many guys handled that ball? How many didn't communicate effectively? It's organizational, not individual.
Yeah, Craig needs to go. But I think more for his slow, weak swing that that one play. But since he needs to go anyway, now would be a good time to do it to show the whole team that such idiocy is unacceptable. And it is unbelievable that the whole team froze and no one apparently told the clueless Craig what to do. In baseball it's never a good idea to assume someone else knows what to do no matter how obvious it should be. When coaching a base, it's always good to remind the runner how many outs there are, whether to tag on a fly ball, etc even though it shouldn't be necessary. It shouldn't have been necessary to tell Craig to forget about chasing Baez and just go step on 1B. But at some point it was obvious he needed help and it looks like he didn't get any.
Not looking for an excuse for Craig but as I watch that video closely , it could be that Perez was calling for the ball. If he knew what was going on , he should have walked up he line and assisted Craig ... no ?
The calliopes can be heard from here to Sewickley
I wonder if Josh Bell would have made the same play that Craig made at 1B? Probably not, but at least Nutting got to pocket the money they saved from salary dumping Josh Bell.
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2drfischer@gmail.c
The calliopes can be heard from here to Sewickley
797E6F7C6F3E330A0 wrote: Regardless of minor league experience, Craig can no longer play at the MLB level. It's more than some "brain fart." We have former MLB players saying it. So have some of us.
It's a poor look and we know who to look at. It's more than one guy, but the buck stops and starts somewhere.
It's just that some choose to look the other way; excusing as a momentary mistake by one guy.
How many guys handled that ball? How many didn't communicate effectively? It's organizational, not individual.
Yeah, Craig needs to go. But I think more for his slow, weak swing that that one play. But since he needs to go anyway, now would be a good time to do it to show the whole team that such idiocy is unacceptable. And it is unbelievable that the whole team froze and no one apparently told the clueless Craig what to do. In baseball it's never a good idea to assume someone else knows what to do no matter how obvious it should be. When coaching a base, it's always good to remind the runner how many outs there are, whether to tag on a fly ball, etc even though it shouldn't be necessary. It shouldn't have been necessary to tell Craig to forget about chasing Baez and just go step on 1B. But at some point it was obvious he needed help and it looks like he didn't get any.
Not looking for an excuse for Craig but as I watch that video closely , it could be that Perez was calling for the ball. If he knew what was going on , he should have walked up he line and assisted Craig ... no ?
If Perez was calling for the ball, he's equally to blame along with Craig. If not, because he was directly involved with what Craig was doing, he should've started running at Craig, telling him to go back to first base.
In the meantime, Anderson, who was next closest, should've been screaming to Craig to retreat back to first. The other three infielders, who typically are a team's smartest players, were also complicit in that they simply watched instead of moving towards Craig to get his attention.
The whole lot of them ought to have to spend the next 10 days with the Bradenton team for remedial instruction.
It's a poor look and we know who to look at. It's more than one guy, but the buck stops and starts somewhere.
It's just that some choose to look the other way; excusing as a momentary mistake by one guy.
How many guys handled that ball? How many didn't communicate effectively? It's organizational, not individual.
Yeah, Craig needs to go. But I think more for his slow, weak swing that that one play. But since he needs to go anyway, now would be a good time to do it to show the whole team that such idiocy is unacceptable. And it is unbelievable that the whole team froze and no one apparently told the clueless Craig what to do. In baseball it's never a good idea to assume someone else knows what to do no matter how obvious it should be. When coaching a base, it's always good to remind the runner how many outs there are, whether to tag on a fly ball, etc even though it shouldn't be necessary. It shouldn't have been necessary to tell Craig to forget about chasing Baez and just go step on 1B. But at some point it was obvious he needed help and it looks like he didn't get any.
Not looking for an excuse for Craig but as I watch that video closely , it could be that Perez was calling for the ball. If he knew what was going on , he should have walked up he line and assisted Craig ... no ?
If Perez was calling for the ball, he's equally to blame along with Craig. If not, because he was directly involved with what Craig was doing, he should've started running at Craig, telling him to go back to first base.
In the meantime, Anderson, who was next closest, should've been screaming to Craig to retreat back to first. The other three infielders, who typically are a team's smartest players, were also complicit in that they simply watched instead of moving towards Craig to get his attention.
The whole lot of them ought to have to spend the next 10 days with the Bradenton team for remedial instruction.
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2drfischer@gmail.c
The calliopes can be heard from here to Sewickley
4C575A5B525E513F0 wrote: I wonder if Josh Bell would have made the same play that Craig made at 1B? Probably not, but at least Nutting got to pocket the money they saved from salary dumping Josh Bell.
Bell would've taken the throw from Gonzalez and then airmailed it into left field.
Bell would've taken the throw from Gonzalez and then airmailed it into left field.
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DemDog
The calliopes can be heard from here to Sewickley
1E2B3C3C370E3C3C37303C590 wrote: Regardless of minor league experience, Craig can no longer play at the MLB level. It's more than some "brain fart." We have former MLB players saying it. So have some of us.
It's a poor look and we know who to look at. It's more than one guy, but the buck stops and starts somewhere.
It's just that some choose to look the other way; excusing as a momentary mistake by one guy.
How many guys handled that ball? How many didn't communicate effectively? It's organizational, not individual.
Go check the Pirates site. You'll get your answer.
It was obviously rhetorical. We have plenty who are directly and indirectly responsible.
No one can change what transpired, of course. Let's see how it's prevented. That's more important, in my opinion.
A very astute observation GW. Even Doc should be proud of it coming from you.
It's a poor look and we know who to look at. It's more than one guy, but the buck stops and starts somewhere.
It's just that some choose to look the other way; excusing as a momentary mistake by one guy.
How many guys handled that ball? How many didn't communicate effectively? It's organizational, not individual.
Go check the Pirates site. You'll get your answer.
It was obviously rhetorical. We have plenty who are directly and indirectly responsible.
No one can change what transpired, of course. Let's see how it's prevented. That's more important, in my opinion.
A very astute observation GW. Even Doc should be proud of it coming from you.
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GreenWeenie
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I would thank you for that compliment, but. ...I'm still in shock to get it. )))
What's next? A winning streak?????@@@@@
)))What's next? A winning streak?????@@@@@