1A2421293A222229092C3B287F4D0 wrote: Awful play by Marcano hands SF an extra run. He goes after runner coming to 2B instead of throwing runner out at home. One thing about Shelton's team: they always play heads up ball. ::)
Bonehead play. These are mental errors that are getting out of hand.
the big question for me is whether anyone points this out to Marcano and I wonder if Marcano has second thoughts about not going home on Friday night instead of taking sure out at first.
Official Game Thread - 7/15 - Bucs vs Giants
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WildwoodDave2
Official Game Thread - 7/15 - Bucs vs Giants
These mental mistakes are getting old. Starting to question the
baseball IQ of some of these guys. I said that as politically correct as I can
baseball IQ of some of these guys. I said that as politically correct as I can
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WildwoodDave2
Official Game Thread - 7/15 - Bucs vs Giants
Giants- 3 runs on 3 hits
Pirates- 1 run on 7 hits
Pirates- 1 run on 7 hits
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ChillinStation
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Official Game Thread - 7/15 - Bucs vs Giants
Maybe the heavy veteran presence isn`t so great? Team has zero chemistry it seems. How many times you want to hear about the old days.
Official Game Thread - 7/15 - Bucs vs Giants
So......
The starting catcher, who supposedly is so good that he has to be PH for because he's so awful at hitting.....
The starting RF who was a catcher that was drafted 1-1 and supposedly can't be trusted to catch either foolishly throws home thinking he can get a runner out who is off at the crack of the bat or he horribly misses the cutoff man....
The ball comes in to the backup catcher, who for some unknown reason decides to throw to second with a runner half way down the third base line as the batter who hit the single is trying to advance to second, makes a poor throw to the shortstop who makes a poor decision trying to tag that runner, allowing the runner on third to score......
We have another catcher in Indianapolis who is back to positively raking again, but he ALSO can't be trusted to be the Pirates catcher while we watch two catchers who management DOES trust, not able to hit, field, throw but can frame pitches like no tomorrow......
And we DON'T have a catcher problem?
Time for BC and Sherington to just swallow their egos, and let the two guys who were supposed to be your catchers of the future, be, you know, your catchers!!!!
The starting catcher, who supposedly is so good that he has to be PH for because he's so awful at hitting.....
The starting RF who was a catcher that was drafted 1-1 and supposedly can't be trusted to catch either foolishly throws home thinking he can get a runner out who is off at the crack of the bat or he horribly misses the cutoff man....
The ball comes in to the backup catcher, who for some unknown reason decides to throw to second with a runner half way down the third base line as the batter who hit the single is trying to advance to second, makes a poor throw to the shortstop who makes a poor decision trying to tag that runner, allowing the runner on third to score......
We have another catcher in Indianapolis who is back to positively raking again, but he ALSO can't be trusted to be the Pirates catcher while we watch two catchers who management DOES trust, not able to hit, field, throw but can frame pitches like no tomorrow......
And we DON'T have a catcher problem?
Time for BC and Sherington to just swallow their egos, and let the two guys who were supposed to be your catchers of the future, be, you know, your catchers!!!!
Official Game Thread - 7/15 - Bucs vs Giants
002D20313627307073420 wrote: Awful play by Marcano hands SF an extra run. He goes after runner coming to 2B instead of throwing runner out at home. One thing about Shelton's team: they always play heads up ball. ::)
Marcano was the least of the eff ups on that play. He just put the cherry on top
Marcano was the least of the eff ups on that play. He just put the cherry on top
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2drfischer@gmail.c
Official Game Thread - 7/15 - Bucs vs Giants
I have no intention of minimizing the blame the Pirates deserve, but are there any organizations taking vital time during Spring Training, offseason workouts, afternoon sessions during the regular season, not to mention all the time afforded them while their players are in the minor leagues, to teach how the game is played? Sometimes I wonder how guys reach the major leagues and yet seem stymied by what's taking place on the field. So few players seem to be instinctively gifted, even middle infielders, the guys who always knew what was going on before anyone else.
Do college programs, high school coaches, travel ball coaches, Little League coaches, heck, even older kids in the neighborhoods, bother to spend time to explain the defensive responsibilities of each position as plays unfold? Does anyone instruct players how to run the bases?
There is an over-emphasis on hitting, particularly for power, that starts when the kids are young, with personal instructors no less. It's like there's no time to teach how the game is played, to explain player responsibilities. Young players get an immediate impression that little else matters other than hitting home runs. It's like playing chess with the only moves made being an all out, uncoordinated assault on the opponent's king without considering the consequences of any move made.
Defense no longer matters. The impression is that it's boring to teach and tedious to practice. And from the players' perspective, no one makes big money by being good at it. Yet, a good defense, combined with good pitching, makes every team competitive.
Do college programs, high school coaches, travel ball coaches, Little League coaches, heck, even older kids in the neighborhoods, bother to spend time to explain the defensive responsibilities of each position as plays unfold? Does anyone instruct players how to run the bases?
There is an over-emphasis on hitting, particularly for power, that starts when the kids are young, with personal instructors no less. It's like there's no time to teach how the game is played, to explain player responsibilities. Young players get an immediate impression that little else matters other than hitting home runs. It's like playing chess with the only moves made being an all out, uncoordinated assault on the opponent's king without considering the consequences of any move made.
Defense no longer matters. The impression is that it's boring to teach and tedious to practice. And from the players' perspective, no one makes big money by being good at it. Yet, a good defense, combined with good pitching, makes every team competitive.
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Bobster21
Official Game Thread - 7/15 - Bucs vs Giants
0F594F5B544E5E55584F7D5A505C5451135E3D0 wrote: I have no intention of minimizing the blame the Pirates deserve, but are there any organizations taking vital time during Spring Training, offseason workouts, afternoon sessions during the regular season, not to mention all the time afforded them while their players are in the minor leagues, to teach how the game is played? Sometimes I wonder how guys reach the major leagues and yet seem stymied by what's taking place on the field. So few players seem to be instinctively gifted, even middle infielders, the guys who always knew what was going on before anyone else.
Do college programs, high school coaches, travel ball coaches, Little League coaches, heck, even older kids in the neighborhoods, bother to spend time to explain the defensive responsibilities of each position as plays unfold? Does anyone instruct players how to run the bases?
There is an over-emphasis on hitting, particularly for power, that starts when the kids are young, with personal instructors no less. It's like there's no time to teach how the game is played, to explain player responsibilities. Young players get an immediate impression that little else matters other than hitting home runs. It's like playing chess with the only moves made being an all out, uncoordinated assault on the opponent's king without considering the consequences of any move made.
Defense no longer matters. The impression is that it's boring to teach and tedious to practice. And from the players' perspective, no one makes big money by being good at it. Yet, a good defense, combined with good pitching, makes every team competitive.
Well said, Doc. it used to be that if a player had a low baseball IQ it stood out. That term was even coined for it. But in today's game it seems rare to find someone who doesn't have a low baseball IQ.
Do college programs, high school coaches, travel ball coaches, Little League coaches, heck, even older kids in the neighborhoods, bother to spend time to explain the defensive responsibilities of each position as plays unfold? Does anyone instruct players how to run the bases?
There is an over-emphasis on hitting, particularly for power, that starts when the kids are young, with personal instructors no less. It's like there's no time to teach how the game is played, to explain player responsibilities. Young players get an immediate impression that little else matters other than hitting home runs. It's like playing chess with the only moves made being an all out, uncoordinated assault on the opponent's king without considering the consequences of any move made.
Defense no longer matters. The impression is that it's boring to teach and tedious to practice. And from the players' perspective, no one makes big money by being good at it. Yet, a good defense, combined with good pitching, makes every team competitive.
Well said, Doc. it used to be that if a player had a low baseball IQ it stood out. That term was even coined for it. But in today's game it seems rare to find someone who doesn't have a low baseball IQ.
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SteadyFreddy
Official Game Thread - 7/15 - Bucs vs Giants
21-43 now since the 20-8 start and last in the MLB in runs scored during that stretch with 230 runs. There is no way this coaching staff lead by Shelton should keep its jobs at seasons end if things continue at the pace they are on right now.