You can chase a dream or you can try to build your best reality.
I’ve not expressed an opinion on Ben until this draft: I now think he’s executing a very specific plan and with this draft he’s knocking the ball out of the park.
I can see the Pirates competing by 2023. Ben will have done his part. It will then be up to nutting to provide the budget to FINISH the team.
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fjk090852-7
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There is a report that Bubba Chandler is in Pittsburgh today. We may hear some news regarding his signing later today or tomorrow.
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BellevueBuc
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323E3F646D646C61667963540 wrote: There is a report that Bubba Chandler is in Pittsburgh today. We may hear some news regarding his signing later today or tomorrow.
Probably physical today, signing made official tomorrow.
Probably physical today, signing made official tomorrow.
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GreenWeenie
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5C5B4D454B5C1B176E49434F4742004D41432E0 wrote: You can chase a dream or you can try to build your best reality.
I’ve not expressed an opinion on Ben until this draft: I now think he’s executing a very specific plan and with this draft he’s knocking the ball out of the park.
I can see the Pirates competing by 2023. Ben will have done his part. It will then be up to nutting to provide the budget to FINISH the team.
"Competing" means different things to different people. What do mean by it?
Competing for .500. (,to win baseball games)?
Competing for the division titles?
Competing for a Wild Card berth?
Competing for the NLCS?
Competing to win the World Series?
Anything between?
On it's own, it's vague enough to mean little.
I’ve not expressed an opinion on Ben until this draft: I now think he’s executing a very specific plan and with this draft he’s knocking the ball out of the park.
I can see the Pirates competing by 2023. Ben will have done his part. It will then be up to nutting to provide the budget to FINISH the team.
"Competing" means different things to different people. What do mean by it?
Competing for .500. (,to win baseball games)?
Competing for the division titles?
Competing for a Wild Card berth?
Competing for the NLCS?
Competing to win the World Series?
Anything between?
On it's own, it's vague enough to mean little.
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fjk090852-7
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Draft Signings
Jason Mackey is reporting that Chandler has signed for 3 million dollars pending a physical.
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BellevueBuc
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313D3C676E676F62657A60570 wrote: Jason Mackey is reporting that Chandler has signed for 3 million dollars pending a physical.
Running out of money for White, but it would make sense Chandler gets more than him.
Running out of money for White, but it would make sense Chandler gets more than him.
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That seems high. He got more than Solometo. Maybe they think Kellington will be a below slot deal?
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steve49
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595152657356717E100 wrote: Interesting tidbits...Bubba Chandler has on his Twitter profile "Ballplayer for the Pirates" and has a pinned retweet of the Bucs announcing that they'd drafted him that says, "Let's get to work."
Lonnie White, Jr. still has himself listed as a Penn State football commit, and a pinned tweet of him signing with Penn State that says, "100% committed." He's going to be a tough sign.
Bishop has been pretty clear that he intends to go to Arkansas next year.
Here's to hoping we can at least sign the Big Four (two already in the bag, obviously).
That tweet from White was May 7th. He had ditched Clemson for Penn State , so maybe it doesn't mean much.
Lonnie White, Jr. still has himself listed as a Penn State football commit, and a pinned tweet of him signing with Penn State that says, "100% committed." He's going to be a tough sign.
Bishop has been pretty clear that he intends to go to Arkansas next year.
Here's to hoping we can at least sign the Big Four (two already in the bag, obviously).
That tweet from White was May 7th. He had ditched Clemson for Penn State , so maybe it doesn't mean much.
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4E7B6C6C675E6C6C67606C090 wrote: You can chase a dream or you can try to build your best reality.
I’ve not expressed an opinion on Ben until this draft: I now think he’s executing a very specific plan and with this draft he’s knocking the ball out of the park.
I can see the Pirates competing by 2023. Ben will have done his part. It will then be up to nutting to provide the budget to FINISH the team.
"Competing" means different things to different people. What do mean by it?
Competing for .500. (,to win baseball games)?
Competing for the division titles?
Competing for a Wild Card berth?
Competing for the NLCS?
Competing to win the World Series?
Anything between?
On it's own, it's vague enough to mean little.
Agree with you. And everyone may have different definitions.
For me, contending ultimately means competing for a WS. By 2023 I think the Pirates will be executing on the field a plan that will have the potential to directly lead to a WS. They may not get to the WS, much less win it, but the 2023 team will hopefully give us a glimpse of what is being built and that picture will be of a WS contender.
Example: for me, the Pirates were "contending" beginning 2012 (I didn't realize at the time that 2011 was actually a real marker). In 2012 I did not expect a WS, but I did begin to believe something special was coming together. By 2013 we were within one game of the NLCS. 2014 showed us just how important it is to win the division and avoid the WC; another step.
It was 2015, surprisingly, that I began to get frustrated and doubt the Pirates were really contending for a WS. That team was so close to being the best in baseball, but if you go back to OBN for that season you would see me screaming at Neil and Nutting pretty regularly to "FINISH THE TEAM!!" They just needed one or two pieces to get pass the Cardinals. But they rolled the dice that the team was good enough - that's not competing. 2016 proved that 2015 was not about doing anything reasonably possible to win a WS.
I’ve not expressed an opinion on Ben until this draft: I now think he’s executing a very specific plan and with this draft he’s knocking the ball out of the park.
I can see the Pirates competing by 2023. Ben will have done his part. It will then be up to nutting to provide the budget to FINISH the team.
"Competing" means different things to different people. What do mean by it?
Competing for .500. (,to win baseball games)?
Competing for the division titles?
Competing for a Wild Card berth?
Competing for the NLCS?
Competing to win the World Series?
Anything between?
On it's own, it's vague enough to mean little.
Agree with you. And everyone may have different definitions.
For me, contending ultimately means competing for a WS. By 2023 I think the Pirates will be executing on the field a plan that will have the potential to directly lead to a WS. They may not get to the WS, much less win it, but the 2023 team will hopefully give us a glimpse of what is being built and that picture will be of a WS contender.
Example: for me, the Pirates were "contending" beginning 2012 (I didn't realize at the time that 2011 was actually a real marker). In 2012 I did not expect a WS, but I did begin to believe something special was coming together. By 2013 we were within one game of the NLCS. 2014 showed us just how important it is to win the division and avoid the WC; another step.
It was 2015, surprisingly, that I began to get frustrated and doubt the Pirates were really contending for a WS. That team was so close to being the best in baseball, but if you go back to OBN for that season you would see me screaming at Neil and Nutting pretty regularly to "FINISH THE TEAM!!" They just needed one or two pieces to get pass the Cardinals. But they rolled the dice that the team was good enough - that's not competing. 2016 proved that 2015 was not about doing anything reasonably possible to win a WS.
Draft Signings
So, by my count, here's where we're at:
1st Round: Henry Davis for $6.5 million ($1,915,300 under slot)
2nd Round: Anthony Solometo for $2.8 million ($800,700 over slot)
3rd Round: Bubba Chandler for $3 million ($2,129,300 over slot)
5th Round: Jackson Glenn for $12,500 ($409,800 under slot)
6th Round: Mike Jarvis for $7,500 ($307,900 under slot)
7th Round: Wyatt Hendrie for $177,500 ($67,400 under slot)
8th Round: Sean Sullivan for $175,000 ($17,900 under slot)
9th Round: Luke Brown for $72,500 ($89,500 under slot)
10 Round: Justin Meis for $127,500 ($22,000 under slot)
11th Round: Jack Carey for $125,000
13th Round: Owen Sharts for $125,000
15th Round: Tyler Samaniego $75,000
20th Round: Brenden Dixon $125,000
Interesting that Samaniego would get $50,000 below slot. And he could have gone back to school. Regardless...put all this together, and they're over slot by $100,200. Which also means they can spend an additional $619,500 over their allotted amount (at a 75% tax) without losing draft picks.
In other words, they have $2,241,200 to play with to sign White, Kellington, and Bishop. I assume those three are the priority. But hey...so far, so good.
Many, many thanks to this site for keeping things up to date. https://pirates.pittsburghbaseball.com/2021draft/
1st Round: Henry Davis for $6.5 million ($1,915,300 under slot)
2nd Round: Anthony Solometo for $2.8 million ($800,700 over slot)
3rd Round: Bubba Chandler for $3 million ($2,129,300 over slot)
5th Round: Jackson Glenn for $12,500 ($409,800 under slot)
6th Round: Mike Jarvis for $7,500 ($307,900 under slot)
7th Round: Wyatt Hendrie for $177,500 ($67,400 under slot)
8th Round: Sean Sullivan for $175,000 ($17,900 under slot)
9th Round: Luke Brown for $72,500 ($89,500 under slot)
10 Round: Justin Meis for $127,500 ($22,000 under slot)
11th Round: Jack Carey for $125,000
13th Round: Owen Sharts for $125,000
15th Round: Tyler Samaniego $75,000
20th Round: Brenden Dixon $125,000
Interesting that Samaniego would get $50,000 below slot. And he could have gone back to school. Regardless...put all this together, and they're over slot by $100,200. Which also means they can spend an additional $619,500 over their allotted amount (at a 75% tax) without losing draft picks.
In other words, they have $2,241,200 to play with to sign White, Kellington, and Bishop. I assume those three are the priority. But hey...so far, so good.
Many, many thanks to this site for keeping things up to date. https://pirates.pittsburghbaseball.com/2021draft/