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6D4A43434A595A4A6D5A4C2F0 wrote:

Now only 4 days until the winter roster is set. Guessing that at least three or four players on the current roster will be designated and Kranick and Castro will be added, and one or two open spots will remain for additions either through Rule 5 or trade.


I could see them dropping more than 4, maybe closer to 10.  For some reason Rob B thinks Bell is in trouble which makes no sense.



Osuna, Gonzalez, Williams, Poppen, Feliz, Bashlor, Fulmer and Turley would be an easy 8 to cut.
Just my opinion, but since they acquired Poppen, and Fulmer late in the season, I doubt they release them without giving them a chance to pitch in ST.
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6B67663D343D35383F203A0D0 wrote:

Now only 4 days until the winter roster is set. Guessing that at least three or four players on the current roster will be designated and Kranick and Castro will be added, and one or two open spots will remain for additions either through Rule 5 or trade.


I could see them dropping more than 4, maybe closer to 10.  For some reason Rob B thinks Bell is in trouble which makes no sense.



Osuna, Gonzalez, Williams, Poppen, Feliz, Bashlor, Fulmer and Turley would be an easy 8 to cut.
Just my opinion, but since they acquired Poppen, and Fulmer late in the season, I doubt they release them without giving them a chance to pitch in ST.


They are waiver wire guys, would be easier to pass through when teams set their rosters.
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0A2D24242D3E3D2D0A3D2B480 wrote: Has it been announced how and when minor leaguers from contracted teams will be handled?


Short season leagues are gone.  They will only have rookie leagues in Florida and Arizona.  The final alignment is not decided yet, sounds like Bradenton is moving down to low A.



Not sure what you mean by the minor leaguers.  They are unaffected.


Except for the many who will be released and have to give up a dream they've had most of their young lives.




Teams already did that, and annually release players.  That is not new.



The question was how and when players from contracted teams will be handled.  The Pirate's Bristol team is already gone, the players on that team remain with the Pirate organization.




Of course players are released every year.  But multiple teams aren't contracted every year.  An entire roster of players, whether they played for the contracted team or at an upper level, will be released from each organization, along with the normal number of players who are replaced each year as the organizations weed them out in favor of better prospects.




Again, this already happened. These teams were eliminated months ago and teams knew about it for even longer. The Bristol team being eliminated just means players will stay in Bradenton longer. There was only a 5 round draft this year, so many of those players that would have been cut never existed in organizations.


You said minor leaguers we're unaffected. I said those released would be affected. You replied they were already released. What does it matter when they were released due to contraction? They're still affected by an unusual circumstance and most will no longer get to pursue their dream. I'd say that's being affected.
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4A46471C151C14191E011B2C0 wrote:

Now only 4 days until the winter roster is set. Guessing that at least three or four players on the current roster will be designated and Kranick and Castro will be added, and one or two open spots will remain for additions either through Rule 5 or trade.


I could see them dropping more than 4, maybe closer to 10.  For some reason Rob B thinks Bell is in trouble which makes no sense.



Osuna, Gonzalez, Williams, Poppen, Feliz, Bashlor, Fulmer and Turley would be an easy 8 to cut.
Just my opinion, but since they acquired Poppen, and Fulmer late in the season, I doubt they release them without giving them a chance to pitch in ST.


NH was the master at claiming someone late in the season or early in the off season only to dump prior to rule 5 draft. Fulmer was picked up and then dumped before he pitched an inning for the Bucs IIRc and then brought back, so ...
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Post by BellevueBuc »

144254404F55454E435466414B474F4A0845260 wrote: Has it been announced how and when minor leaguers from contracted teams will be handled?


Short season leagues are gone.  They will only have rookie leagues in Florida and Arizona.  The final alignment is not decided yet, sounds like Bradenton is moving down to low A.



Not sure what you mean by the minor leaguers.  They are unaffected.


Except for the many who will be released and have to give up a dream they've had most of their young lives.




Teams already did that, and annually release players.  That is not new.



The question was how and when players from contracted teams will be handled.  The Pirate's Bristol team is already gone, the players on that team remain with the Pirate organization.




Of course players are released every year.  But multiple teams aren't contracted every year.  An entire roster of players, whether they played for the contracted team or at an upper level, will be released from each organization, along with the normal number of players who are replaced each year as the organizations weed them out in favor of better prospects.




Again, this already happened. These teams were eliminated months ago and teams knew about it for even longer. The Bristol team being eliminated just means players will stay in Bradenton longer. There was only a 5 round draft this year, so many of those players that would have been cut never existed in organizations.


You said minor leaguers we're unaffected.  I said those released would be affected.  You replied they were already released. What does it matter when they were released due to contraction?  They're still affected by an unusual circumstance and most will no longer get to pursue their dream.  I'd say that's being affected.




Neat.


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Post by BellevueBuc »

7D6D6C5B4D4D412E0 wrote:

Now only 4 days until the winter roster is set. Guessing that at least three or four players on the current roster will be designated and Kranick and Castro will be added, and one or two open spots will remain for additions either through Rule 5 or trade.


I could see them dropping more than 4, maybe closer to 10.  For some reason Rob B thinks Bell is in trouble which makes no sense.



Osuna, Gonzalez, Williams, Poppen, Feliz, Bashlor, Fulmer and Turley would be an easy 8 to cut.
Just my opinion, but since they acquired Poppen, and Fulmer late in the season, I doubt they release them without giving them a chance to pitch in ST.


NH was the master at claiming someone late in the season or early in the off season only to dump prior to rule 5 draft.  Fulmer was picked up and then dumped before he pitched an inning for the Bucs IIRc and then brought back, so ...


For sure. These are all waiver wire guys they can pick up from other teams or sign off the scrap heap. Nothing exciting about them really.
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Post by BellevueBuc »

Yerry De Los Santos is pitching in the DWL, and had a nice debut. He likely would have been at Bradenton last year, and on pace for Altoona this year. Seems like you can add him to the might be added list.



Feel like Castro, Kranick and Ogle are the only sure things.
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Major League Trade Rumors reported on Friday morning that Bucs are only team that have 40 man roster filled. Nats have 9 spots.



Should be lots of changes happening today.
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Saw a list on the MLB site listing one interesting player from each team who could be taken in the Rule 5 Draft next week. Julio Rodriguez a catcher, with above average defensive skills, is ranked as the Cards 15th best prospect. He maybe worth selecting by the Pirates since their catching depth is weak. The Cardinals seem to have a good reputation on signing good players so he could be a good selection.  We will see on December 10th if the Pirates select anyone with their #1 pick in that draft.
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202C2D767F767E73746B71460 wrote: Saw a list on the MLB site listing one interesting player from each team who could be taken in the Rule 5 Draft next week. Julio Rodriguez a catcher,  with above average defensive skills, is ranked as the Cards 15th best prospect. He maybe worth selecting by the Pirates since their catching depth is weak. The Cardinals seem to have a good reputation on signing good players so he could be a good selection.  We will see on December 10th if the Pirates select anyone with their #1 pick in that draft.


I would go with Payton Henry, C, Milwaukee's 15th prospect. Good bat.
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