Off Season Thread

Surgnbuck · Post by **Surgnbuck** » Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:24 am

1A59405B485D4C5A1A290 wrote: The Pirates claim RHP Eric Hanhold from the Orioles.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/ ... ioles.html
This looks like a GIGO kind of move. I guess reading the article on DK's site, he at least has 2 pitches that are above average. For a reliever, makes me wonder how he hasn't had any success if he has two pitches that good.

Maybe it's the ties to Neil Walker, I read he's the guy the Brewers traded to the Mets to get him.

https://dkpittsburghsports.com/2021/11/ ... b-news-ajs

Surgnbuck · Post by **Surgnbuck** » Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:30 am

Tsutsugo, Cahill, Miller officially free agents and off the 40 man roster. When Hanholder is added, the Pirates will have 46 guys.

Teams have till Sunday to make the 40 man roster only 40 guys or less, including activating guys off the 60 day IL. The Pirates have 7 of those: Brault, Cederlind, De Jong, Peters, Soriano, Underwood Jr., and Wilson.

Surgnbuck · Post by **Surgnbuck** » Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:31 am

Buster Posey reported to be retiring.

Surgnbuck · Post by **Surgnbuck** » Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:41 am

Reds trade Tucker Barnhart. It's clear the Pirates will have some competition for 5th place in 2022, as the Reds have joined the Cubs in payroll slashing/rebuilding process.

I think it's readily apparent they expect Nick Castellanos to opt out of his contract. Most of their team appears controllable. It will be interesting watching what they do with other higher salaried guys (I think Barnhart was going to be making 7.5 million). Votto is full no trade, so won't look at him. However Moustakas (16) Suarez (11.3) Gray (10.9) Miley (10) Akiyama (8), if they start trading those guys, you can rest assured the Reds are salary dumping.

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:15 pm

CS,

Think back, not long. The Bucs most likely didn't consider paying Starling Marte anywhere near that and sent him packing. Do you think they would even consider this? I don't see them changing.

mouse · Post by **mouse** » Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:34 pm

I don't see them devoting enough to the DH role, either. Also, they may have Mason Martin plans in that direction.

Surgnbuck · Post by **Surgnbuck** » Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:28 pm

How every season ends, and how every off season begins. Pretty cool thing from mlb site:

https://www.mlb.com/video/final-out-fro ... rld-series

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:28 pm

Thanks!

Surgnbuck · Post by **Surgnbuck** » Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:52 pm

51120B100316071151620 wrote: Castellanos opted out.
Reds going to extend QO and then get a comp pick. Not sure if it would have been better to trade him. I guess being in the playoff hunt kind of tied their hands.

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:22 pm

1A3C3B2E272B3C2A22490 wrote: Castellanos opted out.
Reds going to extend QO and then get a comp pick. Not sure if it would have been better to trade him. I guess being in the playoff hunt kind of tied their hands.

Yeah. They had little choice, given the situation. This right here shows just how much money's out there. It's out THERE- somewhere ELSE.

The guy turns down a $17 mil option, and they know that he's going to turn down the 18 mil QO because he knows that there is at least one of 28 (not 29) clubs that might go even higher.

Not bad for junk!

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