Official Game Thread - 6/20 - Bob's Stooges vs The Tribe

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Official Game Thread - 6/20 - Bob's Stooges vs The Tribe

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Bucs now trail.



Shelton 2

Pirates 1
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Official Game Thread - 6/20 - Bob's Stooges vs The Tribe

Post by Ecbucs »

103D30212637206063520 wrote: Brubaker exceeded the 70 pitch limit. The moron had to pull him with 2 outs in the 7th. And the first pitch from Shreve gives the Indians the lead.



Also, the moron once again left himself with an all LH batting bench. I sure hope the Indians don't have any LH relievers.


Indians have two lefties that both have ERA's over 12 in a small number of innings. However, I don't think Shelton considered that at all.
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Official Game Thread - 6/20 - Bob's Stooges vs The Tribe

Post by Surgnbuck »

Polanco never fails to disappoint when he's needed. What a horrid AB. I wish he'd step on a nail or something. He's a flipping joke
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Official Game Thread - 6/20 - Bob's Stooges vs The Tribe

Post by Bobster21 »

Francona must not know how to double switch. He failed to do it so that his pitcher led off the next inning. Maybe Shelton can help him with that.
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Post by Bobster21 »

Bucs played a good game but Shelton and the Indians were too much to overcome.
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Official Game Thread - 6/20 - Bob's Stooges vs The Tribe

Post by WildwoodDave2 »

5D707D6C6B7A6D2D2E1F0 wrote: Bucs played a good game but Shelton and the Indians were too much to overcome.
Very good game- Brubaker deserved a better fate- Good series. Poloanco had a chance to make Shedman happy. He faiied as usual
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Official Game Thread - 6/20 - Bob's Stooges vs The Tribe

Post by GreenWeenie »

Polanco had chances to make every Bucs fan happy.
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Official Game Thread - 6/20 - Bob's Stooges vs The Tribe

Post by Bobster21 »

Shelton explained his decision to pull Brubaker: "We went into that inning, if we had, you know, a guy on base and we had the left-hander there, we were going to go to Shreve."



What ever happened to waiting to see how an inning plays out and weighing the performance of the starter against the likelihood that a reliever could do any better, if even as well? But this is how a manager operates when he can't think on his feet and weigh options. Shelton had an ironclad plan going into the inning. If Naylor came up with a man on base, Brubaker was leaving the game.



It didn't matter that Brubaker was pitching a masterful game on just 76 pitches with only 3 hits, 1 run, 0 walks and 9 Ks. It didn't matter that LH batters were only 1 for 11 in the game against him. It didn't matter that Naylor, at .247 was not a big threat in the Indians lineup or that the bottom 3 in the order immediately after Naylor were all hitless against Brubaker. It's just easier to run a team when you institute an ironclad rule before the inning begins so that if that situation rises you automatically make the preconceived move without having to think about it. Thinking seems to be a real challenge to Shelton and it appears he's trying to find a way around that. Who needs to think when you set up rules in advance that must be followed regardless?
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Official Game Thread - 6/20 - Bob's Stooges vs The Tribe

Post by DemDog »

517C71606776612122130 wrote: Shelton explained his decision to pull Brubaker: "We went into that inning, if we had, you know, a guy on base and we had the left-hander there, we were going to go to Shreve." 



What ever happened to waiting to see how an inning plays out and weighing the performance of the starter against the likelihood that a reliever could do any better, if even as well? But this is how a manager operates when he can't think on his feet and weigh options. Shelton had an ironclad plan going into the inning. If Naylor came up with a man on base, Brubaker was leaving the game.



It didn't matter that Brubaker was pitching a masterful game on just 76 pitches with only 3 hits, 1 run, 0 walks and 9 Ks. It didn't matter that LH batters  were only 1 for 11 in the game against him. It didn't matter that Naylor, at .247 was not a big threat in the Indians lineup or that the bottom 3 in the order immediately after Naylor were all hitless against Brubaker. It's just easier to run a team when you institute an ironclad rule before the inning begins so that if that situation rises you automatically make the preconceived move without having to think about it. Thinking seems to be a real challenge to Shelton and it appears he's trying to find a way around that. Who needs to think when you set up rules in advance that must be followed regardless?


Are there any decent managerial candidates our there for next season?
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Official Game Thread - 6/20 - Bob's Stooges vs The Tribe

Post by Bobster21 »

406169406B63040 wrote: Shelton explained his decision to pull Brubaker: "We went into that inning, if we had, you know, a guy on base and we had the left-hander there, we were going to go to Shreve." 



What ever happened to waiting to see how an inning plays out and weighing the performance of the starter against the likelihood that a reliever could do any better, if even as well? But this is how a manager operates when he can't think on his feet and weigh options. Shelton had an ironclad plan going into the inning. If Naylor came up with a man on base, Brubaker was leaving the game.



It didn't matter that Brubaker was pitching a masterful game on just 76 pitches with only 3 hits, 1 run, 0 walks and 9 Ks. It didn't matter that LH batters  were only 1 for 11 in the game against him. It didn't matter that Naylor, at .247 was not a big threat in the Indians lineup or that the bottom 3 in the order immediately after Naylor were all hitless against Brubaker. It's just easier to run a team when you institute an ironclad rule before the inning begins so that if that situation rises you automatically make the preconceived move without having to think about it. Thinking seems to be a real challenge to Shelton and it appears he's trying to find a way around that. Who needs to think when you set up rules in advance that must be followed regardless?


Are there any decent managerial candidates our there for next season?


There are always minor league managers who we haven't yet heard of who will become good MLB managers. There are also probably popcorn vendors at stadiums who would be better managers than Shelton. I doubt he could even handle the popcorn stand.
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