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Wait, is he the freight train or the bum?
DemDog

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More Info on Duties of Rabelo and Marrero per the PG
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The Nationals get Ryan Zimmerman for a 1 and the Reds get  Hector Perez for a 1.  What say you GW and WWD?



The current standings are:



Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1).............................................18

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3),Springer(5).......16

Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5),Profar(2)........                         16

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).................

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5)..................................12

Angels-Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1),Quintana(2.5)10.5

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)

--Zimmerman(1).........................................................10

Asros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5),Brantley(3),Castro(1)......................9.5

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)..............9

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5)............................9

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Davies(3.5)........................8.5

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)...............  8

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5)................................................7.5

Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5)...................................7

Dodgers  Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3)................................6.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5).....6.5

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5).............................6.5

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5),Bass(2)...................................6.5            

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2)....................................6

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2)..............................5

Cubs - Rizzo(3),Romine(1).........................................................4

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5),Perez(1).................3.5

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2)...................................................3

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1)..............................................1.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5



The Pirats have hired Christian Marrero as their Assistant hitting coach.  Good news!  Now Cherington can focus all of his energies to finding an assistant to the assistant hitting coach.
Bobster21

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716A67666F636C020 wrote: The Nationals get Ryan Zimmerman for a 1 and the Reds get  Hector Perez for a 1.  What say you GW and WWD?



The current standings are:



Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1).............................................18

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3),Springer(5).......16

Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5),Profar(2)........                         16

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).................

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5)..................................12

Angels-Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1),Quintana(2.5)10.5

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)

--Zimmerman(1).........................................................10

Asros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5),Brantley(3),Castro(1)......................9.5

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)..............9

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5)............................9

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Davies(3.5)........................8.5

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)...............  8

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5)................................................7.5

Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5)...................................7

Dodgers  Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3)................................6.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5).....6.5

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5).............................6.5

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5),Bass(2)...................................6.5            

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2)....................................6

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2)..............................5

Cubs - Rizzo(3),Romine(1).........................................................4

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5),Perez(1).................3.5

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2)...................................................3

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1)..............................................1.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5



The Pirats have hired Christian Marrero as their Assistant hitting coach.  Good news!  Now Cherington can focus all of his energies to finding an assistant to the assistant hitting coach.
I nominate Dwight Schrute.
DemDog

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Post by DemDog »

5D707D6C6B7A6D2D2E1F0 wrote: The Nationals get Ryan Zimmerman for a 1 and the Reds get  Hector Perez for a 1.  What say you GW and WWD?



The current standings are:



Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1).............................................18

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3),Springer(5).......16

Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5),Profar(2)........                         16

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).................

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5)..................................12

Angels-Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1),Quintana(2.5)10.5

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)

--Zimmerman(1).........................................................10

Asros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5),Brantley(3),Castro(1)......................9.5

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)..............9

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5)............................9

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Davies(3.5)........................8.5

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)...............  8

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5)................................................7.5

Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5)...................................7

Dodgers  Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3)................................6.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5).....6.5

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5).............................6.5

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5),Bass(2)...................................6.5            

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2)....................................6

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2)..............................5

Cubs - Rizzo(3),Romine(1).........................................................4

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5),Perez(1).................3.5

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2)...................................................3

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1)..............................................1.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5



The Pirats have hired Christian Marrero as their Assistant hitting coach.  Good news!  Now Cherington can focus all of his energies to finding an assistant to the assistant hitting coach.
I nominate Dwight Schrute.




I second the nomination! Then if shed looked at the PG article there seems to be some method to BC's move. I wish that this thread had some method to it's madness other than playing armchair GM with monopoly money!
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The Red Sox sign Enrique Hernandez for a 2.  What say you WWD and GW?



The current standings are:



Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1).............................................18

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3),Springer(5).......16

Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5),Profar(2)........                         16

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).................

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5)..................................12

Angels-Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1),Quintana(2.5)10.5

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)

--Zimmerman(1).........................................................10

Asros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5),Brantley(3),Castro(1)......................9.5

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)..............9

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5)............................9

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Davies(3.5)........................8.5

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)...............  8

Red Sox Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2),Hernandez(2)................8

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5)................................................7.5

Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5)...................................7

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2),Hernandez(2)..........7

Dodgers  Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3)................................6.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5).....6.5

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5).............................6.5

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5),Bass(2)...................................6.5            

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2)....................................6

Cubs - Rizzo(3),Romine(1).........................................................4

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5),Perez(1).................3.5

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2)...................................................3

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1)..............................................1.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5



Cherington isn't sleeping, he is just testing his keyboard for drool resistance.
2drfischer@gmail.c

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Post by 2drfischer@gmail.c »

Once again, thank you Ben Cherington for not signing these well-below average players, as even Shed has rated them, and making the Pirates worse than they already are.
shedman
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3B6D7B6F607A6A616C7B496E64686065276A090 wrote: Once again, thank you Ben Cherington for not signing these well-below average players, as even Shed has rated them, and making the Pirates worse than they already are.
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Here are the top 11 excuses and alibis for not acquiring a player.



1. He is an aging veteran on the decline.

2. He is too injury prone.

3. Acquiring him would bring us no closer to a championship.

4. He would never sign to play in Pittsburgh.

5. He would be a clubhouse cancer.

6. Acquiring him would upset the team chemistry.

7. Signing him would lose financial flexibility for a 1 year player.

8.We already have players just as good as him.

9. We are not the Red Sox or Yankees and they would outbid us.

10.He would block this LMG or that LMG from development.

11.He can't do anything because of Covid.



That would be #8.
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405B56575E525D330 wrote: The Red Sox sign Enrique Hernandez for a 2.  What say you WWD and GW?



The current standings are:



Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1).............................................18

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3),Springer(5).......16

Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5),Profar(2)........                         16

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).................

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5)..................................12

Angels-Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1),Quintana(2.5)10.5

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)

--Zimmerman(1).........................................................10

Asros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5),Brantley(3),Castro(1)......................9.5

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)..............9

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5)............................9

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Davies(3.5)........................8.5

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)...............  8

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2),Hernandez(2)................8

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5)................................................7.5

Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5)...................................7

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2),Hernandez(2)..........7

Dodgers  Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3)................................6.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5).....6.5

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5).............................6.5

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5),Bass(2)...................................6.5            

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2)....................................6

Cubs - Rizzo(3),Romine(1).........................................................4

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5),Perez(1).................3.5

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2)...................................................3

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1)..............................................1.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5



Cherington isn't sleeping, he is just testing his keyboard for drool resistance.


I'll go along with a 2.



Just so some team in Indianapolis does something.
2drfischer@gmail.c

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Post by 2drfischer@gmail.c »

4C575A5B525E513F0 wrote: Once again, thank you Ben Cherington for not signing these well-below average players, as even Shed has rated them, and making the Pirates worse than they already are.
______

Here are the top 11 excuses and alibis for not acquiring a player.



1. He is an aging veteran on the decline.

2. He is too injury prone.

3. Acquiring him would bring us no closer to a championship.

4. He would never sign to play in Pittsburgh.

5. He would be a clubhouse cancer.

6. Acquiring him would upset the team chemistry.

7. Signing him would lose financial flexibility for a 1 year player.

8.We already have players just as good as him.

9. We are not the Red Sox or Yankees and they would outbid us.

10.He would block this LMG or that LMG from development.

11.He can't do anything because of Covid.



That would be #8.


Let me amend #8 for you here in 2021:  "We already have players just as bad as him."



I find it interesting that you want to sign guys who would take the club from being one that won 32 percent of its games a year ago to one that would win 36 percent of its games in 2021. I thought you wanted to win a World Series title. At your rate of improvement, neither of us will be on this side of the dirt when it happens. Some fan you are.
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