Off Season Thread

shedman · Post by **shedman** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:58 pm

The current standings are:

Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1).............................................18

Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5)..............................................14

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).................

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5)..................................12

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)..............9

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5)............................9

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)......9

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Davies(3.5)........................8.5

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8

Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1)......................8

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5)................................................7.5

Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5)...................................7

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarbere(3),Lester(2).....9

Dodgers Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3)................................6.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5).....6.5

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5).............................6.5

Red Sox Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2)....................................6

Asros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5).....................................................5.5

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2)..............................5

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2).......................................5

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5)................................................4.5

Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2)...................................................3

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5)..............................2.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1)..............................................1.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5

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I don't think Cherington is cut out for this GM thing!

shedman · Post by **shedman** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:58 pm

0D4E574C5F4A5B4D0D3E0 wrote: "Coming into the offseason, there was no need to move money, no need to move payroll for the sake of moving payroll. There was no request for that. We haven't made a single move for financial considerations." - Cherington (DK)

"Cherington says he expects to be adding multiple pieces to the 2021 Pirates. Said he's got 'oars in the water,' toward both free agency and trades, recognizing that free-agency market has been 'slow' to develop." - DK

"To win in Pittsburgh, you've got to be able to build a talent base that's going to help us win here. I'm excited about the players we've been able to have." - Cherington (DK)

RIP Don Sutton
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I wonder if Huntington is Cherington's speechwriter?

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:29 pm

Anytime someone says that "it was a baseball decision" or anything close to that, you know that it was a dump, pure and simple.

shedman · Post by **shedman** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:57 pm

It's Kirby Yates to the Blue Jays for a 3. what say you GW and WWD?

The current standings are:

Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1).............................................18

Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5)..............................................14

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).................

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5)..................................12

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)..............9

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5)............................9

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)......9

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Davies(3.5)........................8.5

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8

Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1)......................8

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3)..........................8

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5)................................................7.5

Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5)...................................7

Dodgers Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3)................................6.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5).....6.5

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5).............................6.5

Red Sox Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2)....................................6

Asros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5).....................................................5.5

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2)..............................5

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5)................................................4.5

Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2)...................................................3

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5)..............................2.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1)..............................................1.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5

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BOB - Ben, how much player salary have you dumped today?

BC - I have already dumped Archer, Bell, and Musgrove.

BOB - what have you done for me today. Dump, Dump, Dump.

BC - If I do that the fans will be upset.

BOB - fans smans. Just give then the one about building for the future.

BC - Who do you want me to dump?

BOB Polanco.

BC - I've tried, but no one will take his salary.

BOB - Give then K'Brian Hayes so long as they take Polanco's salary.

BC - If we do that what will we do with the money.

BOB - I have a spot for the money in the First National bank of Wheeling.

Ecbucs · Post by **Ecbucs** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:02 pm

Reading between the lines, it looks like Ben is going to swoop in and pick up the remaining free agent crumbs after the big boys are satisfied.

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:07 am

The way WE spend money, Tampa Bay's one of the big boys. BOB gets his.

WildwoodDave2 · Post by **WildwoodDave2** » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:32 pm

3E252829202C234D0 wrote: It's Kirby Yates to the Blue Jays for a 3. what say you GW and WWD?

The current standings are:

Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5),Lindor(4.5)

--Carrascvo(3),Luchesi(1).............................................18

Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).

--Kim(1.5),Musgrive(2,5)..............................................14

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).................

--Brebbia(1),Casale(2),Wood(1.5)..................................12

Phillies - Neris(3),Alvarado(2.5.)Coonrod(0.5),Bradley(3)..............9

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5),Hendricks(2.5)............................9

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2),Schwarber(3),Lester(2)......9

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Davies(3.5)........................8.5

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8

Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2),Suzuki(1)......................8

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1),Chatwood(2),Yates(3)..........................8

Yankees - Britton(3),Kuber(4.5)................................................7.5

Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5)...................................7

Dodgers Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5),Treinen(3)................................6.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5).....6.5

Indians - Perez(2.5),Gimenez(2),Rosario(1.5).............................6.5

Red Sox Renfroe(2),Andriese(2),Perez(2)....................................6

Asros - Gurriel(3),Baez(2.5).....................................................5.5

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2)..............................5

Marlins - Marte(3),Detwiler(1.5)................................................4.5

Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3

Tigers - Urena(1),Grossman(2)...................................................3

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5)..............................2.5

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2

Brewers - Maile(.5),Robertson(1)..............................................1.5

Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5

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BOB - Ben, how much player salary have you dumped today?

BC - I have already dumped Archer, Bell, and Musgrove.

BOB - what have you done for me today. Dump, Dump, Dump.

BC - If I do that the fans will be upset.

BOB - fans smans. Just give then the one about building for the future.

BC - Who do you want me to dump?

BOB Polanco.

BC - I've tried, but no one will take his salary.

BOB - Give then K'Brian Hayes so long as they take Polanco's salary.

BC - If we do that what will we do with the money.

BOB - I have a spot for the money in the First National bank of Wheeling.

Yates.2.5

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:18 pm

Agree with the 2.5 for Yates.

I'll go 5 on Springer; a man I've hoped the Bucs would deal for long ago, even up for Cole, or even before that.

Catch up on the rest later.

WildwoodDave2 · Post by **WildwoodDave2** » Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:40 pm

024158435045544202310 wrote: Springer to Toronto, Quintana to LAA.

George Springer- good solid player. 7yr. Veteran- lifetime avg

of 270. good but not great. I give him a

Quintana- gets a 3

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:32 pm

Great enough to hit HRs, too. I know you're a Pirates fan. You still remember what THEY are, right?