Shed corrected my description. It's to rate moves. It's not necessarily roster improvement.
But getting a guy from waivers, whether or not it improves the roster, is not a move. Got it.
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Exactly
Off Season Thread
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Off Season Thread
0A272A3B3C2D3A7A79480 wrote: We've never assigned negative points. If we did, Huntington would be crawling back from China.
Shed corrected my description. It's to rate moves. It's not necessarily roster improvement.
But getting a guy from waivers, whether or not it improves the roster, is not a move. Got it.
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Exactly
Shed corrected my description. It's to rate moves. It's not necessarily roster improvement.
But getting a guy from waivers, whether or not it improves the roster, is not a move. Got it.
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Exactly
Off Season Thread
The Giants sign Matt Wisler for a 2. What say you Greenweenie and Wildwood Dave. Also an adjustment made to score for Dunning due to Greenweenie.
The current standings are:
Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8
Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5)..................................7
Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3)..................................................5
Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2)......................................5
White Sox - Lynn(4)................................................................4
Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1)..................................................3.5
Astros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3
Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3
Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3
Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3
Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3
Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3
Rangers - Heineman(.5),Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5).........................2.5
Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5
Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5)..............................................2
Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2
Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2
Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1)...................................................2
Mariners - Graveman(1).............................................................1
Dodgers Knebel(1)...................................................................1
Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5
Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5
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I don't know which came first the chicken or the egg, but they both came in ahead of Cherington.
The current standings are:
Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8
Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5)..................................7
Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3)..................................................5
Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2)......................................5
White Sox - Lynn(4)................................................................4
Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1)..................................................3.5
Astros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3
Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3
Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3
Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3
Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3
Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3
Rangers - Heineman(.5),Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5).........................2.5
Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5
Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5)..............................................2
Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2
Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2
Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1)...................................................2
Mariners - Graveman(1).............................................................1
Dodgers Knebel(1)...................................................................1
Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5
Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5
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I don't know which came first the chicken or the egg, but they both came in ahead of Cherington.
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DemDog
Off Season Thread
I have to say this thread no way one that I liked at first. The only seriousness about it is how you guys jag each other off with how players are allowed to be scored and the points that each move gets. I finally realize that the point of this thread is to somehow help yourselves and other die-hard Pirate fans make it through the off-season after an agonizingly terrible season. To that point, I give you guys all a 10. Thanks for the humor intentional or not. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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WildwoodDave
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Off Season Thread
203B36373E323D530 wrote: The White Sox get Lance Lynn from the Rangers for a 4 and the Rangers get Dane Dunning from the White Sox for a 2. What say you Wildwood Dave and Greenweenie?
The current standings are:
Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8
Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5)..................................7
Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3)..................................................5
White Sox - Lynn(4)................................................................4
Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1)..................................................3.5
Rangers - Heineman(.5),Gotto(.5),Dunning(2)..............................3
Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2)...................................................3
Astros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3
Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3
Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3
Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3
Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3
Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3
Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5
Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5)..............................................2
Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2
Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2
Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1)...................................................2
Mariners - Graveman(1).............................................................1
Dodgers Knebel(1)...................................................................1
Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5
Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5
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And now there are only 7 other teams that have done nothing to improve their major league roster.
Lance Lynn 3.5
Dunning 1.5
The current standings are:
Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8
Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5)..................................7
Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3)..................................................5
White Sox - Lynn(4)................................................................4
Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1)..................................................3.5
Rangers - Heineman(.5),Gotto(.5),Dunning(2)..............................3
Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2)...................................................3
Astros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3
Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3
Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3
Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3
Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3
Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3
Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5
Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5)..............................................2
Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2
Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2
Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1)...................................................2
Mariners - Graveman(1).............................................................1
Dodgers Knebel(1)...................................................................1
Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5
Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5
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And now there are only 7 other teams that have done nothing to improve their major league roster.
Lance Lynn 3.5
Dunning 1.5
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WildwoodDave
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Off Season Thread
48535E5F565A553B0 wrote: The Giants sign Matt Wisler for a 2. What say you Greenweenie and Wildwood Dave. Also an adjustment made to score for Dunning due to Greenweenie.
The current standings are:
Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8
Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5)..................................7
Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3)..................................................5
Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2)......................................5
White Sox - Lynn(4)................................................................4
Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1)..................................................3.5
Astros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3
Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3
Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3
Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3
Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3
Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3
Rangers - Heineman(.5),Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5).........................2.5
Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5
Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5)..............................................2
Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2
Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2
Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1)...................................................2
Mariners - Graveman(1).............................................................1
Dodgers Knebel(1)...................................................................1
Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5
Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5
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I don't know which came first the chicken or the egg, but they both came in ahead of Cherington.
Matt Wisler 2
The current standings are:
Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8
Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5)..................................7
Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3)..................................................5
Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2)......................................5
White Sox - Lynn(4)................................................................4
Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1)..................................................3.5
Astros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3
Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3
Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3
Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3
Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3
Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3
Rangers - Heineman(.5),Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5).........................2.5
Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5
Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5)..............................................2
Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2
Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2
Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1)...................................................2
Mariners - Graveman(1).............................................................1
Dodgers Knebel(1)...................................................................1
Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5
Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5
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I don't know which came first the chicken or the egg, but they both came in ahead of Cherington.
Matt Wisler 2
Off Season Thread
The White Sox sign Adam Eaton for a 2.5. What say you Wildwood Da ve and Greenweenie?
The current standings are:
Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8
Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5)..................................7
Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3)..................................................5
Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2)......................................5
White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5)................................................6.5
Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1)..................................................3.5
Astros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3
Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3
Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3
Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3
Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3
Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3
Rangers - Heineman(.5),Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5).........................2.5
Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5
Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5)..............................................2
Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2
Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2
Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1)...................................................2
Mariners - Graveman(1).............................................................1
Dodgers Knebel(1)...................................................................1
Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5
Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5
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Nero(Cherington) fiddles while Rome(Pirates) is burning.
The current standings are:
Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8
Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5)..................................7
Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3)..................................................5
Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2)......................................5
White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5)................................................6.5
Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1)..................................................3.5
Astros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3
Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3
Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3
Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3
Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3
Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3
Rangers - Heineman(.5),Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5).........................2.5
Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5
Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5)..............................................2
Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2
Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2
Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1)...................................................2
Mariners - Graveman(1).............................................................1
Dodgers Knebel(1)...................................................................1
Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5
Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5
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Nero(Cherington) fiddles while Rome(Pirates) is burning.
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GreenWeenie
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Off Season Thread
Agree with Wisner and Eaton.
Off Season Thread
46676F466D65020 wrote: I have to say this thread no way one that I liked at first. The only seriousness about it is how you guys jag each other off with how players are allowed to be scored and the points that each move gets. I finally realize that the point of this thread is to somehow help yourselves and other die-hard Pirate fans make it through the off-season after an agonizingly terrible season. To that point, I give you guys all a 10. Thanks for the humor intentional or not. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I am busting their stones. They just don't know how to come back at it.
Now someone gives a 1.5 for a guy who has all of 34 IP in the major leagues. The most important game to date he ever starts, doesn't even last an inning, and his team trades him in the offseason to a team looking to dump a veteran's bona fide authentic major leaguer salary even though they are in a brand new stadium.
That isn't the Pirates, but they're the only team in baseball that does this sort of thing.
ShedanWeenies Baseball Prospectus: "We grade players and GM's the old fashioned way- We make it up as we go along"
I am busting their stones. They just don't know how to come back at it.
Now someone gives a 1.5 for a guy who has all of 34 IP in the major leagues. The most important game to date he ever starts, doesn't even last an inning, and his team trades him in the offseason to a team looking to dump a veteran's bona fide authentic major leaguer salary even though they are in a brand new stadium.
That isn't the Pirates, but they're the only team in baseball that does this sort of thing.
ShedanWeenies Baseball Prospectus: "We grade players and GM's the old fashioned way- We make it up as we go along"
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GreenWeenie
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Off Season Thread
The Off-season Thread is sort of like MLB games. Argue scores, and you're going to get tossed.
All members were invited to participate with Shed. Dave and I said that we would. Where were you? Probably like Ben, twiddling thumbs.
So, now, you take shots at how we rate guys.
If they're going to give some Suspect who's never played a 0.5 because somebody bellyached about it, I can see giving a guy who actually played a 1.5.
You're probably welcome to be on the esteemed panel next year if you ask nicely enough. That way, some other choirboy can make fun of your scores.
It's the way we get through life! We make things up as we go along. Who knows? We could grow up to be POTUS! What a country.
All members were invited to participate with Shed. Dave and I said that we would. Where were you? Probably like Ben, twiddling thumbs.
So, now, you take shots at how we rate guys.
If they're going to give some Suspect who's never played a 0.5 because somebody bellyached about it, I can see giving a guy who actually played a 1.5.
You're probably welcome to be on the esteemed panel next year if you ask nicely enough. That way, some other choirboy can make fun of your scores.
It's the way we get through life! We make things up as we go along. Who knows? We could grow up to be POTUS! What a country.
Off Season Thread
Thr Royals sign Carlos Santana for a 3. What say you Greenweenie and Wildwood Dave?
The current standings are:
Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8
Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5)..................................7
White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5)................................................6.5
Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Santana(3)..................................6.5
Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3)..................................................5
Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2)......................................5
Astros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3
Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3
Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3
Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3
Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3
Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3
Rangers - Heineman(.5),Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5).........................2.5
Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5
Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5)..............................................2
Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2
Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2
Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1)...................................................2
Mariners - Graveman(1).............................................................1
Dodgers Knebel(1)...................................................................1
Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5
Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5
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This is getting so bad that even Surgnbuck will be unable to apologize for Cherington.
The current standings are:
Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8
Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5)..................................7
White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5)................................................6.5
Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Santana(3)..................................6.5
Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3)..................................................5
Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2)......................................5
Astros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3
Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3
Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3
Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3
Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3
Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3
Rangers - Heineman(.5),Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5).........................2.5
Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5
Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5)..............................................2
Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2
Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2
Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1)...................................................2
Mariners - Graveman(1).............................................................1
Dodgers Knebel(1)...................................................................1
Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5
Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5
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This is getting so bad that even Surgnbuck will be unable to apologize for Cherington.