0F2D3E232025222D0E392F2F234C0 wrote: I've said for a few years now and it's still true ... ALL of the Pirates starting pitchers would, at best be, a No. 4 or 5 starter on a good team. The Pirates hype them up as being "good" and being "No. 1 or No. 2 starters" ... but they are only good and No. 1 starters BY PIRATE STANDARDS ... and that is by far the lowest bar and lowest standard in MLB. On a real team, the likes of Musgrove, Williams, Archer, etc... would be a decent No. 5 starter.
So true.
1E333E2F28392E6E6D5C0 wrote: I've said for a few years now and it's still true ... ALL of the Pirates starting pitchers would, at best be, a No. 4 or 5 starter on a good team. The Pirates hype them up as being "good" and being "No. 1 or No. 2 starters" ... but they are only good and No. 1 starters BY PIRATE STANDARDS ... and that is by far the lowest bar and lowest standard in MLB. On a real team, the likes of Musgrove, Williams, Archer, etc... would be a decent No. 5 starter.
So true.
526770707B4270707B7C70150 wrote: Pitching for the Pirates is no different from pitching anywhere else.
LMGs don't cut it. For the one who does, there are 50 who won't.
Archer wasn't a LMG. The Pirates just can't tell tell the difference between ability and inability.
Archer was bad judgment on Huntington's part. That's been established. I agree. Pitching has not been our strong suit often. On the few occasion it's been, keeping it is another area of weakness, as we know.
7D43464E5D45454E6E4B5C4F2A0 wrote: Yep- #1 pick looking good
As we've discussed elsewhere, it's not set in stone that this year's worst record gets the first pick.
This is quick and dirty, fewest wins for 2019-20 combined:
Tigers: 47+21=68
Orioles: 54+21=75
Royals: 59+20=79
Marlins: 57+24=81
Pirates: 69+14=83
Mariners: 68+22=90
Angels: 72+20=92
Rockies: 71+ 21=92
Blue Jays: 67+26=93
Rangers: 78+17=95
Reds: 75+24=99
Formula where 2020 counts double:
Tigers: 47+21+21=89
Orioles: 54+21+21=96
Pirates: 69+14+14=97
Royals: 59+20+20=99
Marlins: 57+24+24= 105
Tigers have 11 games scheduled, Orioles 12, Royals 11, Pirates 13, Marlins 14
Anyway, if they reach back to 2019, it'll be pretty hard to beat the Tigers.
Edit: I've also seen a suggestion they'll go back 162 games, including about the last hundred games of 2019. Tigers 46-105, with 11 to play, Pirates 54-95, with 13 to play. Tigers really stink.
1E2B3C3C370E3C3C37303C590 wrote: Mustgroove is to Cole what Stallings was to Dixon.
I have absolutely no idea what this means, not clever though to anyone except the author I suspect.