2024 Off-Season Thread

[Babe Adams]

I think that Russell Martin is the only competitive free agent position player the Pirates have signed in the NH-BC era, is that right? Two years, $15 million. I guess you could argue for Jung Ho Kang, Four years, $16 million including $5 million to his Korean team. It seems like the Pirates plan contemplates signing this type of player as a last resort, at best.

[JollyRoger8]

Guardians just traded Josh Naylor to Arizona for a RHP (Ciccone) that had an ERA of 6.66
Meanwhile the Pirates traded Ortiz a starting pitcher with a 3.32 ERA and a 100 MPH fastball plus 2 highly regarded LHP prospects. For a 1B with mediocre power and terrible splits. I don’t really care that Horwitz has 6 years of control. Skenes will be gone by then.
How in the world did BC screw up this deal with Cleveland.

Just when you think the Pirates cannot go any cheaper, they manage to find a way. Josh Naylor was the heart and soul of the Guardians with power and a gold glove. He would have been a leader on this team. More of a leader than Cutch.

[JollyRoger8]

If I was GM I would have prioritized bringing Chapman back as risk mitigation for Bednar. Then I would have signed Pennsylvania native Christian Walker for 1B or traded for Josh Naylor. Finally I would see what it took to bring back Marte

[fjk090852-7]

Goldschmidt and Carlos Santana signed today for 12.5 million and 12 million dollars. When I see those numbers I wonder how much the Pirates may have to offer Cutch to return in 2025 ? I have a feeling it will be more than the 5 million dollars he agreed to the past two years. It may take around 8 million dollars to get him back for 2025.

[Doc]

Guardians just traded Josh Naylor to Arizona for a RHP (Ciccone) that had an ERA of 6.66
Meanwhile the Pirates traded Ortiz a starting pitcher with a 3.32 ERA and a 100 MPH fastball plus 2 highly regarded LHP prospects. For a 1B with mediocre power and terrible splits. I don’t really care that Horwitz has 6 years of control. Skenes will be gone by then.
How in the world did BC screw up this deal with Cleveland.

Just when you think the Pirates cannot go any cheaper, they manage to find a way. Josh Naylor was the heart and soul of the Guardians with power and a gold glove. He would have been a leader on this team. More of a leader than Cutch.

It was no screw-up. Spencer Horwitz is here instead of Josh Naylor because he earns $800,000 while Naylor's due $12 million. Money, not talent, is always the deciding factor.