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« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2010, 12:16:28 PM » |
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I don't think Brock Holt should be dismissed because he weighs 160 ( of course maybe he is really 150).
He is off to a good start as a pro. Maybe he doesn't have glove for short and the odds are against him but there are more than a few big leaguers that are listed as 170 or less (Aregenis Diaz is listed at 155 in Baseball America Almanac I have).
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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2010, 12:23:49 PM » |
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He will likely add some additional muscle over the next couple of years anyway, and end up around 180 or so. Especially if he isn't expected to stay at short anyway, it would be to his advantage to add a little size.
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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2010, 01:01:45 PM » |
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He has a 150 power ISO. That's an acceptable amount of power for a middle infielder. If he can maintain that, I don't care about his listed weight.
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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2010, 01:20:00 PM » |
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DL sucked. Not matter how you slice it. Don't let a crappy article like Dejan's Sunday piece in the P-G say otherwise.
Did Dejan write an article that was positive about Littlefield? If so, I'd love to read it. Do you have a link to it?
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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2010, 01:25:41 PM » |
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DL sucked. Not matter how you slice it. Don't let a crappy article like Dejan's Sunday piece in the P-G say otherwise.
Did Dejan write an article that was positive about Littlefield? If so, I'd love to read it. Do you have a link to it? Ask and ye shall receive.... I meant to post this on Monday, but I thought someone else would have picked up on it. It should be titled: "I wish I could still eat BBQ with Nate, Jack, and Freddy" http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10122/1054895-63.stm
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2010, 01:34:25 PM » |
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DL sucked. Not matter how you slice it. Don't let a crappy article like Dejan's Sunday piece in the P-G say otherwise.
Did Dejan write an article that was positive about Littlefield? If so, I'd love to read it. Do you have a link to it? Ask and ye shall receive.... I meant to post this on Monday, but I thought someone else would have picked up on it. It should be titled: "I wish I could still eat BBQ with Nate, Jack, and Freddy" http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10122/1054895-63.stmThanks. I wouldn't say that was a "pro-Littlefield" article but it certainly wasn't "anti-Littlefield" either. In fact, I'm not sure what Dejan was trying to say with that article. It was very wishy washy and he didn't really take a stand on anything. It was more like a list of players in the system that came from Littlefield and another list of players in the system that came from NH. Dejan's writing has been pretty disappointing of late, in my opinion.
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2010, 01:54:19 PM » |
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DL sucked. Not matter how you slice it. Don't let a crappy article like Dejan's Sunday piece in the P-G say otherwise.
Did Dejan write an article that was positive about Littlefield? If so, I'd love to read it. Do you have a link to it? Ask and ye shall receive.... I meant to post this on Monday, but I thought someone else would have picked up on it. It should be titled: "I wish I could still eat BBQ with Nate, Jack, and Freddy" http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10122/1054895-63.stmThanks. I wouldn't say that was a "pro-Littlefield" article but it certainly wasn't "anti-Littlefield" either. In fact, I'm not sure what Dejan was trying to say with that article. It was very wishy washy and he didn't really take a stand on anything. It was more like a list of players in the system that came from Littlefield and another list of players in the system that came from NH. Dejan's writing has been pretty disappointing of late, in my opinion. I agree that about 2/3 of the way thru, he changed the texture of the article. It was still a very apologetic article for Littlefield at the start, though. He was on the job for 6 drafts and produced 4 regulars from those drafts, with maybe 2-3 on the way.
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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2010, 01:58:29 PM » |
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DL sucked. Not matter how you slice it. Don't let a crappy article like Dejan's Sunday piece in the P-G say otherwise.
Did Dejan write an article that was positive about Littlefield? If so, I'd love to read it. Do you have a link to it? Ask and ye shall receive.... I meant to post this on Monday, but I thought someone else would have picked up on it. It should be titled: "I wish I could still eat BBQ with Nate, Jack, and Freddy" http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10122/1054895-63.stmThanks. I wouldn't say that was a "pro-Littlefield" article but it certainly wasn't "anti-Littlefield" either. In fact, I'm not sure what Dejan was trying to say with that article. It was very wishy washy and he didn't really take a stand on anything. It was more like a list of players in the system that came from Littlefield and another list of players in the system that came from NH. Dejan's writing has been pretty disappointing of late, in my opinion. I agree that about 2/3 of the way thru, he changed the texture of the article. It was still a very apologetic article for Littlefield at the start, though. He was on the job for 6 drafts and produced 4 regulars from those drafts, with maybe 2-3 on the way. Absolutely.
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2010, 02:02:16 PM » |
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Werent most of the guys mentioned as littlefield guys were actually drafted under Mickey White who littlefield fired to bring in Creech?
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2010, 02:05:52 PM » |
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2002 draft (43 selections) - Capps 2003 draft (50 selections) - Maholm, Gorzelanny 2004 draft (50 selections) - None (Bixler doesn't even count as a bench guy and Walker hasn't established himself either) 2005 draft (50 selections) - Cutch-22, maybe Pearce 2006 draft (50 selections) - None (Lincoln, Crotta, Owens maybe soon) 2007 draft (50 selections) - None (Moskos, Friday, Watson, La%#@more maybes)
So in 6 drafts that's 5 guys, with only Capps, Maholm, Gorz, and Cutch22 as any level of success.
DL sucked. Not matter how you slice it. Don't let a crappy article like Dejan's Sunday piece in the P-G say otherwise.
Agree -- I would expect that Lincoln and Moskos will make the majors, maybe Owens, but any more than 3 of the guys in the minors sticking in the majors is highly doubtful IMHO. Significantly less than 2 per draft. Nice to have a bit more objective way to view drafts as opposed to a general opinion. Great thread.
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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2010, 02:09:19 PM » |
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In Class AAA Indianapolis, the top position players were Steve Pearce and Neil Walker, and the top pitcher was Brad Lincoln. Dejan conveniently does not mention Alvarez or Tabata until later.
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2010, 02:22:34 PM » |
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As stated, this was extremely fair analysis from Goldstein. I think he's right about Morris and Sanchez being big leaguers. The rest ... who knows? As much as we love the guy, Marte could very well flame out in the upper levels. If nothing else, this is a dose of reality for a few overly optimistic (or is it hopeful?  ) people on the board.
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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2010, 02:42:14 PM » |
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In Class AAA Indianapolis, the top position players were Steve Pearce and Neil Walker, and the top pitcher was Brad Lincoln. Dejan conveniently does not mention Alvarez or Tabata until later. That was my first thought as I was writing that. I think he sort of cherry picked his people he named. I think I could make a case for LaRoche being the top position player in April. I am positive I could make a case for Tabata being one of the top two at AAA. I think he made his point though. Get people fired up in the first part of the article. I know I then read the whole way through. And as a person kept reading, he made the allowances that had to be made for much of the talent that surrounds the few Littlefield people remaining. I figured Dejan's point in starting the article in that way was to make people read it. Not necessarily because he believed it all. Mike
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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2010, 02:42:30 PM » |
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I like the idea of a 2013 rotation with Ohlendorf, Morton, Lincoln, Morris, and Locke or Owens.
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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2010, 02:45:36 PM » |
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Interesting minor league update by Goldstein today: Worthy Of The Call?
Jose Tabata, OF, Pirates (Triple-A Indianapolis)
Thursday's stats: 2-for-3, 2B, 3 R, BB, SB
With Lastings Milledge scuffling, is it time for Tabata to get a look? The former Pirates has taking a huge step forward this year, and while it's a cliché, the player once described as fat by scouts is in the best shape of his career and rifling balls all over the park. 13-for-25 in his last six games and batting .349/.420/.472 overall, we might not know how old he is, but we do know he can hit, with off-the-charts bat speed and new-found wheels as well, with 13 stolen bases. C'mon Pirates brass, make the call. and Bryan Bullington, RHP, Royals (Triple-A Omaha): 7.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 8 K. Former No. 1 overall pick as 1.54 ERA in six games while limiting PCL hitters to a .169 average. The way things are going in KC, he might get a look.
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