Possum, with respect, this is coming from someone who criticized President Bush every chance he got. In fact, in this exact post, you refer to him as "Dubya" instead of President Bush. You accuse him of stealing two elections. In 2004, he received the most votes EVER for POTUS. In 2000, yes, he lost the popular vote. No one disputes that. However, he won the electoral college, which, unless someone amended the Constitution without my knowing it, is still the way our President is elected. At no time during the Florida recount was he behind in the vote count. If you can find me a post of yours on here where you referred to President Bush as "President Bush," I will retract my comment. But, I suppose he's not entitled to the same respect that President Obama is, right?
"And besides, you are not a patriot if you don't back the President." I thought it was the left saying that dissent from the President is the mark of patriotism when Bush was President. I suppose the rules change when the party holding the White House changes.
Furthermore, do you know what Rush said? He said that Obama is a liberal and in his opinion, liberalism is bad for the country. He doesn't want the country to fail, he wants LIBERALISM to fail. I also think that liberalism is bad for the country. The government has not given me one shred of evidence demonstrating that they can run anything without running it into the ground. Until they do, I don't want them near the auto industry, the banking industry, the housing industy (which they already ran into the ground), or the health care industry. Do I or Rush want Obama to fail personally? No. I do not, however, want to see his liberal policies put into place.
Continuing on, the criticism that President Obama is receiving at the hands of the right pales in comparison to the criticism leveled against President Bush by the left. Your same logic of, "If you don't like this country and you and your ilk certainly are showing that, just leave. Get the heck out to some country who will take you if you can find one," could just as easily be applied to the left. A lot of these people think these other countries are so great, like Cuba or Venezuela. Perhaps they should ask a Cuban refugee for his opinion. It wasn't President Bush who went on to Saudi television to disparage America. That would be President Obama.
These people think the American health care system is a joke? Listen, I've lived in Italy, and I've had two friends hospitalized in Italy for an extended period of time. Supposedly, Italy has the "second best health care system in the world after France." I can tell you with absolute certainty that I wouldn't send my dog for treatment at an Italian, government run, hospital. I literally have seen veterinary clincs that were more sanitary.
How many people on the left wanted the U.S. to lose the war on Terror when Bush was president? Quite a few, I suggest. How many privately, or publicly for that matter, jumped up and down with glee when the stock market crashed just prior to the Novemeber elections last year, virtually assuring Obama of the presidency? Yet, where are all these people now? The war in Afghanistan, where Obama said the focus should be, is worse than when he took office. The same people who criticized President Bush for his actions on Katrina have been mysteriously silent while President Obama ignores the situation in American Samoa, which last I checked, is an American territory.
As for Rush, "he is what he is, a big overpaid, dumb, egotistical, racist, hate monger, who happens to have the ears of a bunch of stupid **** bags like you." So, Rush is a hate mongerer, but I'm a stupid **** (what that bleeped out, I don't know) because I like to listen to him on occasion? Unbelievable.
Signed, IABucFan, proud graduate of the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.
P.S. I too have the utmost amount of respect for GB21 and anyone who has served our great nation in the Armed Services. My younger brother just enlisted and will be beginning basic training at the end of the month.
There is so much dis and mis-information in your post that is difficult to know where to start. But let me clear something up for everyone. On these boards, I often called Bush something other than the President. I when I didn't address Bush as President Bush, I was usually reminded that I wasn't being respectful. When I corrected another poster, I was simply repeating what had been told to me.
In my professional life, no matter how poorly I thought of him, I always called him President Bush, even though many of my colleagues didn't refer to Clinton in that way. If truth be told, I have no respect for Bush and less respect for Cheney. They are both cowardly dispicable human beings, who politicized the military and used it for their own gain.
Now back to your post. Conservatives have demonized Democrats in every form, to the point that they refuse to use the adjective "Democratic" to describe someone. If a Democrat was against the war, they were accused of not supporting the troops. If they didn't support war, they were treasonous and unpatriotic. Now when Conservatives go to other countries and demean our President or work with rogue governments, giving aid and comfort to those nations, I simply do to Conservatives what they've done in the past. Sarah Palin and Jim Demint are both traitors.
Rush Limbaugh isn't a traitor, yet. He is however, unpatriotic. He has claimed in the past that Democrats wanted Bush to fail. He stated that anyone who wanted Bush to fail was unpatriotic. By his own definition of the word, Rush is unpatriotic.
In my own personal opinion, Rush is a coward in the Cheney mold. Like Cheney, when he had a chance to serve his nation, he chose to do something else. He is a coward with a big mouth.
I think you are blinded by your own philosophies if you think liberalism has no successes. The first liberal success stories are the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments. The elimination of the abomination of slavery (13th amendment) was, in fact, a liberal success story. The federal government eliminated the states' and individuals' ability to own other humans.
The 14th amendment furthered the rights of slaves to give them full citizenship.
The 15th amendment placed the federal government in a superior position in relation to state authority. This amendment protected us from the arbitrariness of the state laws. Most importantly, it defined the intent of founding fathers like James Madison, who believed in a strong separation between church and state.
The 19th amendment gave women the right to vote. Again, the federal government corrected an inequality that the states didn't figure out.
It was a liberal President who won the greatest conflict of our recent history. He stopped the greatest tyrant in perhaps all of history.
Conservatives not only wrongly bash Social Security but many of them gladly cash their checks (hypocrites). While Social Security may fail, as Conservatives want it to, it has done exactly what FDR and liberals wanted it to to. It provided a saftey net for millions of Americans when they reached retirement age. It provided them the means not only to retire but to actually live longer and enjoy it.
If you travel from one state to another, you have witnessed another example of liberalism in action. President Eisenhower with his plan for an federally funded and developed, interstate highway network (based on the Autobahn) is an ideal example of how states couldn't get it right but the federal government did. Prior to the development of that, the only American who could travel outside the boundaries of their state were the wealthy. The only failure of the network is when Conservatives fail to understand that roads need to be maintained.
The FDA and regulation of food processing is a liberal success story. Prior to that, sanitary conditions were deplorable. Americans had no sense that what they were eating was safe.
Work safety programs are another set of liberal success stories. One doesn't have to go far back into our history to know that safety was a cost issue that was almost always ignored. If the Republicans had their way, we would go back to that era.
The liberal cause has always been about expanding rights and expanded protection and opportunity for the individual. The conservative agenda is about fewer rights (gay marriage ban amendments to the constitution, forced prayer in schools, taking parental choice away from parents). The gay marriage ban proposed amendment would be the only amendment to our constitution that limits rights not expands them.
The conservative agenda is about intolerance and selfishness, its not focused on what is good for the country as a whole. Conservative want theocracy. They want all the benefits, primarily greed, without any of the costs. They will use our road but whine about taxes to maintain them. They will claim that taxes are their money but gladly take the mortgage interest deduction. By the way, mortgage interest is not your money, its the banks.
While our militaries struggle to fight two wars, Conservatives neither want to raise taxes to support it, nor do they by and large want compelled service to fight it. Conservatives gladly wave ribbons or afix them to their cars but fighting is voluntary and someone else's obligation.
Conservative claim they want government out of the private sector but they don't really. They want government to have greater control of unions and workers rights. The first thing that conservatives went after during the car bailout was worker benefit packages that were fairly and openly acquired in the collective bargaining process. They continue to support government sponsored procreation through tax deductions for children. Conservative don't want less government, they want their government.
Finally, trust me I mean that, since President Obama's (I do like saying that) election, the conservatives have shown complete disrespect for not only our President but nearly all of our constitional processes. Their diregard for the electoral process is horrendous. They did lose the election. While they have the right to their collective voice, they have no right to demand that the nation comply to their will. The conservatives, primarily the tea baggers, are a complete and utter disgrace to this nation.
PS. I think Rush should have the opportunity to buy an NFL team but only if the league wants him to. He has no right, natural, constitutionally based or contractually based to own a team. Because the NFL is a private entity, they have every right to deny him a team.
