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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2008, 01:16:05 AM »

What a magnificently superficial argument.  Yes, there was a three way tie. So look further.  Look at the losses. 

OU lost to Tx on a neutral field, by 10 points and got dominated in the second half.  It was quite clear who was the better team.  Tx lost to Tech on the last play of the game after Tx again dominated in the second half.  Tech played very well the majority of the game, and clearly deserved to win.  But because of the way Tx came back, Tech was pretty fortunate to win.  That was also a road game for Tx, and came after Tx played OU, Mo and OSU, three top ten teams, in consecutive weaks.  OU slaughtered Tech.  It was a home game for OU, and after a weekend off for both teams.  Tech had just played Tx and OSU the prior weeks, a pretty tough schedule.  Analysis, huge advantage for Tx, huge disadvantage for Tech.

Look at the wins.  OU scored a lot of points against a lot of teams.  They also gave up a lot of points against a lot of teams.  Against the best defense they played, Tx, they scored 35, which is pretty good.  But they also gave up a lot to Tx offense, 45, hence the big hickey.  Tx scored a lot of points as well, but not as prolific as OU.  Tx played much better defense.  For example, in the last THREE games of the season, Tx  gave up less TOTAL points (37)than OU did to OSU in its final ONE game (41).  Tech scored a lot of points as well, and gave up a lot.  Advantage, Tx for the better overall team.

Look at the schedules.  OU played Cinncinnatti and TCU, but also Chattanoga.  Tx played Arkansas and Missouri.  Tech played powderpuffs.  Tech also struggled to beat Baylor and Nebraska.  OU and Tx had no such struggles.  Tx played 4 top teams in consecutive weeks, losing on the road in week 4, OU and Techs schedules were better spread out.  Advantage Tx, big disadvantage Tech.

Look at what you want, but Tx had the superior season, Tech had the least impressive of the three.  OU got the benefit of computers who favor running up scores.



Have to disagree with you Willie.  I watched the entire OU/UT game.  Now, I'm not making any excuses.  OU got beat fair and square, howeve, we did lose our starting middle linebacker who was the heart and soul of our defense.  Up until that point, OU was dominating that game on both sides of the ball.  OU intercepted a pass in the end zone that was ruled incomplete.  That play was never reviewed.  Granted, I'm biased, but I'm convinced the OU player, I think it was Dominique Franks, had possession of the ball.  UT wound up getting a field goal there.  UT also scored on a couple of drives that were aided by two 15 yard penalties for late hits out of bounds on Travis Lewis.  Again, I'm not making up excuses, but these things have to be taken into consideration.  Also, that game may be at a "neutral" site, but it is far from neutral.  It's in Dallas, Texas in the middle of the Texas state fair, a gathering of 500,000 Longhorn fans.  It would be like the Packers playing the Bears in Milwaukee and calling it neutral.

Yes, Texas Tech did beat Texas on the last play of the game, but UT did not dominate the second half of that game.  They played well in the fourth quarter.  I think TT was leading 22-3 going into the fourth quarter.  The fact is that UT lead for a minute and a half of that game.

We can talk about SOS all we want, but the fact of the matter is that OU played a tougher schedule.  The computers verify this.  OU didn't play Missouri in the regular season, but they did play Nebraska.  I don't care what anybody says, Nebraska is a good football team this year.  A lot of OU's points given up are a result of a few things that don't really relate to how good their defense is:  1) Their kickoff coverage is atrocious.  I think they have given up four kickoffs for touchdowns this year.  One completely changed the momentum of the Texas game.  It turned a 21-10 Sooner lead into a 21-17 Sooner lead.  2) The offense scores quickly.  This results in the defense being on the field a lot.  3) The defense knows their offense is so good, they can afford to gamble a little bit.  I think this is why OU leads D-1 in turnover ratio.  The OU defense gives up a lot of yards and a lot of points, but they have a knack for making big plays.  The force a lot of turnovers and get a lot of sacks.

I don't want to get overconfident, so I'm not going to predict that OU will beat Florida.  My only point is that they deserve to be in the game.
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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2008, 05:00:52 PM »

Thats a lot of excuses for not making excuses.  I guess OU cant take the loss of one player.  Tx lost its top WR, RB and defensive player against Tech, does that mean Tx really didnt lose to Tech?

Bottom line, OU does deserve to be in the championship game.  Texas just deserves it more.  Not by a wide margin, but by an obvious one.

If OU doesnt like playing in Dallas, that would be fine with Texas.  OU losing that recruiting base would turn them into to Iowa State.
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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2008, 12:01:45 AM »

I still don't see why it's so obvious that Tx deserves this over OU.  Tx beat OU on a neutral site, but since when does the location matter?  In general tie-breaker situations it doesn't matter.  In pro football, if two teams have an even record, then the team which won the head-to-head match up gets the tie-break, even if it was at home and by only one point.  If you want to look at point differential during both their head-to-head games and against Texas Tech, then OU wins that easily.

I am not a fan of either team (I root for Iowa, in contrast to IABucFan).  I also think OU is just the better team.  Colt McCoy flopped to draw two huge 15 yard penalties on OU during that game, and I believe both directly lead to points.  If those two teams played again, I would pick OU to win.
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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2008, 01:34:12 PM »

I can't wait to see Florida's defense shut this circus down... gonna guess something like:

31-17 Gators

Stoops defense couldn't stop the offense of a non-BCS team when it mattered in the past. In fact, they got scored upon at will. Florida will expose these Sooners for what they really are...


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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2009, 01:09:11 AM »

"Say... didn't you used to be Bob 'Big Game' Stoops?"

The 4th best QB huh? Tebow was by far the best one playing and leading his team in this game. They gave the Heisman to the wrong player, me thinks. Maybe the BCS needs to rethink who the automatic bids go out to.

I will predict that next year, the Sooners will score a million points against the Washington General-like defenses again... and suffer yet another loss in a BCS game.

Stoops coaches an over hyped team from an over hyped conference. How many years of this has to occur before anyone realizes it?
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