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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2012, 06:39:00 PM » |
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I'm not so enamored of Trumbo, but Morales could be a good catch as long as the price reflects the risk involved with his health. Didn't MLBTR have an earlier piece that said the Angels weren't looking to deal either because there is doubt with both that they would be healthy enough to start the season? I think they will wait in order to garner more in return after they are both healthy and performing.
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There's something kind of eeEEEEeeehh about a kid that's never played baseball. --Foghorn Leghorn
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2012, 07:52:02 PM » |
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Trumbo- Do we need another corner IF guy who will walk 20 times and strike out about 150 times per season. He had a sub .300 OBA and power remains his only redeamable quality.
Morales- I think teams have to see him healthy before committing to trade for him. It has been two years since he has played and NH would look awful foolish trading prospects for a guy who "might" never be able to play again and even if he does return will always have leg issues. Add in the fact that he will be one of the Angels only LH hiiters besides the ancient Abreu and I don't see a match.
As much as it pains me to say, I don't think NH will find his long term 1b option this offseason. We will have to see what settles between Jones and McGhee but I don't see either of them as long term fits going forward. This could all change however if Fielder somehow ends up in Seattle and Smoak becomes available. NH would have to seriously consider putting together a package to see if he could acquire the switch hitting 1b.
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2012, 10:15:00 PM » |
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If the cost were Meek i would take either. I get it about Trumbo's OBP but he is still worth a reliever. Morales would need to be healthy, but again if the risk is a setup man then I say do it.
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2012, 11:12:32 AM » |
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We are focused on backup middle infielders and minor league free agents right now. Don't muddy the waters with this talk of acquiring a first baseman of the future. Neal's job is hard enough as is.
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2012, 03:43:10 PM » |
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Trumbo- Do we need another corner IF guy who will walk 20 times and strike out about 150 times per season. He had a sub .300 OBA and power remains his only redeamable quality.
Morales- I think teams have to see him healthy before committing to trade for him. It has been two years since he has played and NH would look awful foolish trading prospects for a guy who "might" never be able to play again and even if he does return will always have leg issues. Add in the fact that he will be one of the Angels only LH hiiters besides the ancient Abreu and I don't see a match.
As much as it pains me to say, I don't think NH will find his long term 1b option this offseason. We will have to see what settles between Jones and McGhee but I don't see either of them as long term fits going forward. This could all change however if Fielder somehow ends up in Seattle and Smoak becomes available. NH would have to seriously consider putting together a package to see if he could acquire the switch hitting 1b.
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Im with you Slider, would be stoked if NH could score Justin Smoak still got high hopes for him. Was he by any chance in Pedro Alvarez draft class? Or am I confusing him for Eric Hosmer? One can only dream about Hosmer, why cant the Bucco's develope a kid like that?  Wishful thinking eh |
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2012, 04:25:29 PM » |
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Hosmer, Smoak and Alvarez were all in the same draft class.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2012, 10:16:04 AM » |
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If the cost were Meek i would take either. I get it about Trumbo's OBP but he is still worth a reliever. Morales would need to be healthy, but again if the risk is a setup man then I say do it.
I think I would trade Meek for either one. Meek has to prove he is healthy and productive still as well. |
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2012, 11:36:07 AM » |
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I'd trade Meek for either one, and regardless of Morales health, in a nanosecond and I don't even like Trumbo much. RH relief pitching is the most fungible commodity in all of sports.
The rub is that the Angels wouldn't take just Meek for either one of those guys(unless they knew Morales' leg was, quite literally, falling off) for the same reason.
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2012, 03:35:04 PM » |
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Morales is the better player but only has 2 years of control... and is obviously a question mark because of his health.
Trumbo, while currently inferior, has 5 years of control. Plus he's only 25 (will turn 26 in a week), so the chance for him to improve his triple slash is pretty high. Trumbo is also left-handed, which is a plus at our park.
I'd trade Hanrahan for either of these guys. Hanrahan had one of the best seasons ever by a Pirate reliever and his WAR was only 2.0. A good 1B can get 4 WAR. Plus all the obvious statements about relievers' importance.
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2012, 03:49:30 PM » |
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Morales is the better player but only has 2 years of control... and is obviously a question mark because of his health.
Trumbo, while currently inferior, has 5 years of control. Plus he's only 25 (will turn 26 in a week), so the chance for him to improve his triple slash is pretty high. Trumbo is also left-handed, which is a plus at our park.
I'd trade Hanrahan for either of these guys. Hanrahan had one of the best seasons ever by a Pirate reliever and his WAR was only 2.0. A good 1B can get 4 WAR. Plus all the obvious statements about relievers' importance.
Trumbo bats and throws RH. I wouldn't trade Hanrahan straight up for either guy, but would move him if the Pirates got another prospect back with Trumbo/Morales. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2012, 04:02:07 PM » |
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Morales is the better player but only has 2 years of control... and is obviously a question mark because of his health.
Trumbo, while currently inferior, has 5 years of control. Plus he's only 25 (will turn 26 in a week), so the chance for him to improve his triple slash is pretty high. Trumbo is also left-handed, which is a plus at our park.
I'd trade Hanrahan for either of these guys. Hanrahan had one of the best seasons ever by a Pirate reliever and his WAR was only 2.0. A good 1B can get 4 WAR. Plus all the obvious statements about relievers' importance.
Trumbo bats and throws RH. I wouldn't trade Hanrahan straight up for either guy, but would move him if the Pirates got another prospect back with Trumbo/Morales. You're right. Not sure why I thought he was a LHH. Thanks. Still would take him for Hanrahan though. Should have traded Meek last off-season. Should trade Hanrahan this off-sesason. |
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2012, 04:39:23 PM » |
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Should have traded Meek last off-season.
yep. Should trade Hanrahan this off-sesason.
yep. I don't think Meek alone gets Morales. Maybe Meek + and #11-20 pitcher? |
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2012, 02:24:17 AM » |
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Get Brent Lillibridge back
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2012, 09:48:32 AM » |
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For first base at least in short term I would like to see the Bucs go for Wilson Betemit again unless he wants $ 5million a year as his only cost is money.
Also talk to Royals about what it would take to get Billy Butler. I could see them wanting a lot for him but he would help the lineup.
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