Surgnbuck wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2022 at 4:37pm:


You and I appear to have a fundamental difference of opinion.

You say that Reynolds has just quit on his team.

I say that Reynolds didn't do any such thing.

"Just" means that it....just happened.  I doubt that.  This has most likely gone on for several months of unsuccessful negotiations.  It's probably been heading toward this.

More importantly, he hasn't quit on his team.  He's possibly quitting on his employer.  If that's the case, so be it.  He wants to seek better opportunities to meet his goals.  I've never been opposed to anyone- baseball player or regular Joe- who wants to better himself.

Saddened to possibly lose him, but happy for him if it's what he wants.

What the Pirates- and every other business needs- is guys who do well and have a happy enough relationship with their surroundings to stay while they perform well. 

I side with the player in this case because his track record's been a lot better than his employer has been for a long, long time.  He receives the pass because he's more deserving.

If he's a Boras client, it's since last year.

This time last year, he was represented by another agency, CAA Sports.  According to the internet just now, he is still their client.

mouse wrote on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 11:18am:

My preference would to be keep him because of the years of control. But now that he's a liar and a quitter, I say trade him now. Problem is, if he were to be traded I wanted it to be a Major League trade, enough of prospects already. Do a package where we get a 2/3 type starter with some control. But I think he just tanked that with his hissy fit.

Possum wrote on Dec 4^th, 2022 at 3:31pm:


one thing I find interesting is that I thought he signed a two year deal last year so there wouldn't be drama this off season. 

It sounds like they have been negotiating a long term deal since last year and Reynolds is thinking it isn't going to happen.

I am a bit startled by some of the comments about how Reynolds is a liar, a quitter, and that his attitude may be a problem around the younger players. 

Reynolds is involved in contract negotiations.  If every comment from a politician, a corporate executive, a union representative, or hell, even my wife was taken within this framework the entire world would be on fire.

Last time I looked, there are Hall of Famer's who performed well for a team over a series of years and even one year, and even helped their team win a championship, but when it came time for free agency, they turned their backs on their teammates and the fans (who they stated they loved, which likely was somewhat of an honest statement) and accepted a contract from another team.

Reynolds wants more than Nutting is allowing BC to offer.  My guess (nothing more than a guess) is that the offer was really low based on what today's market is.  Reynolds and his agent look at the situation and determine that the gap is so wide between what they believe he is worth and what the Bucs offered that the best route would be for the Pirates to trade him to another team (and through a trade the Pirates would receive something of value, which isn't the case with free agency).  But, in the end, if the Bucs upped their offer I bet Reynolds would be the fawn about how much he loves playing in Pittsburgh and that he is excited to be with the team as they work to win a championship. 

Frankly, after reading the article, I am not concerned in the least regarding his comments. 

P.S.  Kevin Newman clearly stated that he wanted to remain a Pirate and to be with the team as they turn the corner and become a winner.  How did the Bucs reward that loyalty; they traded him to the Reds.  In short, comments and negotiations such as these are the world of baseball.

liar and quitter my hind end.

He's among the better players in the game and deserves the same rewards as others receive.  If he can't get it from the Pittsburgh Pirates, he will get it from a competitor.

The Pirates- as always- have the money.

Does anyone truly think that Reynolds is asking for >30 mpy?  I don't.

He's doing his club a favor.  He's telling them that if they have no plans to pay him, then they're better off dealing him.  And, he's correct.

The Liars are anyone who has told us that they'll spend money when the time is right.

The Liars told us that the stadium would make us competitive.

The Liars told us that we'd be consistently competitive for championships.  We can't even win a division championship.

Be realistic. Most of the players who follow Reynolds have the same desire.  They know the Pirates.  Everyone does.

When BOB gets handed $30 million in allowance, he can afford to take a PR hit.  Visiting fans will help keep him afloat.

And, Henry Davis is next.

For the record I am OK with trading BR.
However it is imperative that BC hits a HR with the return for BR
Cannot have another Josh Bell giveaway, or to a lesser degree the return for Taillon. We need highly rated pitching prospects and a future can’t miss All Star position player.

It is extremely disheartening that once again ownership fails to keep our own players. It appears that Willie “Pops” Stargell will be the very last player that played his entire career as a Pirate!