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Reynolds Requests Trade
Dec 3rd, 2022 at 1:20pm
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Reynolds requesting a trade is a headline on the MLB Trade Rumors site.

Not a good sign when your best player, who is already under contract for next season and 2 more years of club control asks (requests) to get out.

I will be interested to read the article and see if the headline matches up with the story, and to see how BC responds.  The headline may generate more substantive trade offers as the winter meetings unfold.
  
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Re: Reynolds Requests Trade
Reply #1 - Dec 3rd, 2022 at 1:36pm
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MaineBucs wrote on Dec 3rd, 2022 at 1:20pm:
Reynolds requesting a trade is a headline on the MLB Trade Rumors site.

Not a good sign when your best player, who is already under contract for next season and 2 more years of club control asks (requests) to get out.

I will be interested to read the article and see if the headline matches up with the story, and to see how BC responds.  The headline may generate more substantive trade offers as the winter meetings unfold.    

According to Jon Heyman of the New York Post, Reynolds made the request because contract extension talks between the two sides have reached an 'impasse" Mackey reported that there is no
indication that the Pirates will move quickly to deal him
  
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Re: Reynolds Requests Trade
Reply #2 - Dec 3rd, 2022 at 1:36pm
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Generally, when a player of Reynolds stature requests a trade, it creates a lot of conversation, but the trading team loses some ground in the return. The suitors know eventually the Pirates will need to move on and will have to take less.

I'd be surprised to see Reynolds move during the meetings even though this would now appear to be the peak of of the return in a trade.
  
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Re: Reynolds Requests Trade
Reply #3 - Dec 3rd, 2022 at 1:38pm
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MLB rumors infers that his request to be traded stems from an impasse on an extension. Could very well be that if Pirates feel they can't extend him , they may decide to trade him this year and get the max value ?
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 3rd, 2022 at 1:39pm
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Nutting must be jumping for joy.
He can now get rid of Reynolds contract get more prospects and not be blamed for trading the centerpiece of the franchise since Reynolds requested the trade.
However the comment about an extension impasse speaks loudly that money still gets in the way of the Pirates moving forward.
  
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Re: Reynolds Requests Trade
Reply #5 - Dec 3rd, 2022 at 2:01pm
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MaineBucs wrote on Dec 3rd, 2022 at 1:20pm:
Reynolds requesting a trade is a headline on the MLB Trade Rumors site.

Not a good sign when your best player, who is already under contract for next season and 2 more years of club control asks (requests) to get out.

I will be interested to read the article and see if the headline matches up with the story, and to see how BC responds.  The headline may generate more substantive trade offers as the winter meetings unfold.    


by making a public trade request, it is Reynolds adding pressure to the Bucs front office.  If he is way out of their price range he will get dealt but it could be that an agreement will be reached too.
  
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Reply #6 - Dec 3rd, 2022 at 2:54pm
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And now Reynolds has essentially used his popularity, knowing full well he can't lose regardless if his demands are too high or ridiculous, because we'll never know.

I am one of the few who was very critical of Reynolds last season, especially as he was a no show for the first 4 months. His defensive play is awful. Yet, because he's "the man" on the team, he gets a free pass to be a bum for most of the season, then finally shows up.

I hope he gets traded, and I hope it's to the Tigers or A's. Pirates have lost any leverage now of being able to trade him for a major league pitcher, he's probably all prospects now.

Really disappointed in him. IMHO, he just quit on the team, because he knows how much Bob is hated around here, he can't lose.
  

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Reply #7 - Dec 3rd, 2022 at 3:03pm
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My first reaction to the OP was- "Why?"  I should have known, I guess.

I have no idea how players are rated, but Reynolds has to be among the better centerfielders in MLB, and deserves to be paid as such.

Every team has received its final installment of $30 m. from the Disney deal.  The Pirates have the money to pay Bryan Reynolds. 

Life goes on as well know it on Federal Street.
  

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Re: Reynolds Requests Trade
Reply #8 - Dec 3rd, 2022 at 4:11pm
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Jon Heyman has reported that the Pirates offered Reynolds money in excess of any previous long term Pirate’s contract. I believe Hayes signed for $70 million this past April. Reynolds and his agent declined to accept the amount offered.
  
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Re: Reynolds Requests Trade
Reply #9 - Dec 3rd, 2022 at 4:37pm
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My take --- to me, the actual article is less deflating than the original headline.

The issue is the amount of money offered during discussions of a contract extension, and not just an outright trade me request because he is a Pirate.  Many MLB players are po'd with the amount offered during contract extensions (Bogarts and Judge are 2 examples).  My comments:

1)  It is heartening to hear that the Pirates are actually open to discussing a longer term deal with Reynolds.  They likely were low in their offer, but hey, their open to the idea.

2)  The Pirates have time to try and work this out.  Reynolds is under team control for another 3 years.

3)  If Reynolds, in the long-term, wants to earn a good contract from another team (should he reach free agency or be traded), it will be critical that he performs well.   In short, I don't think that he will quit on the team solely because of the amount of the current contract that he agreed to or because he didn't get as much in a longer term deal that he wanted.  Reynolds, like most players, is sharp enough to know that you gotta produce to earn a maximum contract.

4)  And with Reynolds, even though he didn't get what he wanted, if he has a big year this year, he knows that he will earn the big bucks through arbitration in 2024.

5)  I don't think that this type of noise hurts what the Pirates could get in a trade at all.

I do agree with SurgnBuc that Reynolds performance last year had a lot of holes in it, particularly during the first 2/3rd's of a season, and that his defense in CF in 2022 (which was good in 2021) left lots to be desired.  The Bucs really should move him back to LF, but this could become a point of contention with him because the amount he can earn as a CF'er likely is more than if he is a LF'er. 

Unlike SurgnBuc, I want Reynolds to remain a Pirate this season.  Maybe having dancin' Santana and his infectious smile on the team will help.  Smiley

Oh well, on the GM meetings and some more rumors. 

  
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Re: Reynolds Requests Trade
Reply #10 - Dec 3rd, 2022 at 4:37pm
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GreenWeenie wrote on Dec 3rd, 2022 at 3:03pm:
My first reaction to the OP was- "Why?"  I should have known, I guess.

I have no idea how players are rated, but Reynolds has to be among the better centerfielders in MLB, and deserves to be paid as such.

Every team has received its final installment of $30 m. from the Disney deal.  The Pirates have the money to pay Bryan Reynolds. 

Life goes on as well know it on Federal Street.

You just proved my point. Without anyone knowing exactly what figures are involved, Reynolds automatically gets a pass.

He just quit on his team, yet no one seems to mind. Guess another banner day of bashing the owner, even if we don't know the details.
  

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Re: Reynolds Requests Trade
Reply #11 - Dec 3rd, 2022 at 4:42pm
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If the Bucs were to trade Reynolds, possibly they should consider signing free agent outfielder Andrew Benintendi. They lose the power of Reynolds, but Benintendi is a good hitter and outfielder

  
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Re: Reynolds Requests Trade
Reply #12 - Dec 3rd, 2022 at 6:02pm
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Surgnbuck wrote on Dec 3rd, 2022 at 4:37pm:
GreenWeenie wrote on Dec 3rd, 2022 at 3:03pm:
My first reaction to the OP was- "Why?"  I should have known, I guess.

I have no idea how players are rated, but Reynolds has to be among the better centerfielders in MLB, and deserves to be paid as such.

Every team has received its final installment of $30 m. from the Disney deal.  The Pirates have the money to pay Bryan Reynolds. 

Life goes on as well know it on Federal Street.

You just proved my point. Without anyone knowing exactly what figures are involved, Reynolds automatically gets a pass.

He just quit on his team, yet no one seems to mind. Guess another banner day of bashing the owner, even if we don't know the details.


I dont care what the numbers are.  It's not my money.

It's the same story.  All we ever need to do is erase one guy's name and replace it with the next guy.

We lose BR, we lose 100 games.  Maybe 105.

Now, if Ben replaces BR with some stud SP (not some Bryse Wilson) I'll be first to applaud him.
  

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Re: Reynolds Requests Trade
Reply #13 - Dec 3rd, 2022 at 6:25pm
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See this is my favorite part of being a Pirates fan. Trades for prospects .
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 3rd, 2022 at 7:15pm
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Javy wrote on Dec 3rd, 2022 at 1:36pm:
Generally, when a player of Reynolds stature requests a trade, it creates a lot of conversation, but the trading team loses some ground in the return. The suitors know eventually the Pirates will need to move on and will have to take less.

I'd be surprised to see Reynolds move during the meetings even though this would now appear to be the peak of of the return in a trade.

I don't see why a team would offer less because the trade was the player's request. The Pirates are not obligated to trade him but if they do, there will be a number of suitors trying to make a more enticing offer than the others.
  

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