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Carlos Santana
Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:17pm
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Bucs sign Carlos Santana to a one year 6.7 Million Contract.
  
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Reply #1 - Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:32pm
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WildwoodDave 2 wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:17pm:
Bucs sign Carlos Santana to a one year 6.7 Million Contract.


Ben C. is nuts.
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:49pm
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Reply #3 - Nov 25th, 2022 at 9:33pm
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Oye, and double oye, como va!
  
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Reply #4 - Nov 25th, 2022 at 9:55pm
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I am beginning to like the starting lineup either against right handed or left handed pitchers.
  
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Reply #5 - Nov 25th, 2022 at 10:22pm
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This is a guy worth talking about.  Props to Ben.
  

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Re: Carlos Santana
Reply #6 - Nov 25th, 2022 at 10:53pm
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GreenWeenie wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 10:22pm:
This is a guy worth talking about.  Props to Ben.

Does he have much left?

edit--one thing he has immediately done is change my playlist for the next two days.
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Reply #7 - Nov 25th, 2022 at 11:37pm
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I wanted to trade Marte to Cleveland for Santana and prospect Clevenger a few years back. Hopefully, the Pirates get a solid performance and the young guys get to play and learn from a respected vet for a few months, before he is traded.
  
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Re: Carlos Santana
Reply #8 - Nov 26th, 2022 at 5:44am
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SammyKhalifa wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 10:53pm:
GreenWeenie wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 10:22pm:
This is a guy worth talking about.  Props to Ben.

Does he have much left?

edit--one thing he has immediately done is change my playlist for the next two days. 


He's SMOOTH.  Smiley

To your question, I don't see why not.  He's ancient- only by Pirates standards.  But, look at what other guys who were older have done.  Just last year, our very division....

So, he might not be Albert Puljos.  I'm still OK with him.

Because I don't compare him or expect him to be Albert Puljos.

He is better than the options we had on our team.  That's good enough for me.

I'm not looking to be better than the 2022 Astros.  I'm looking to be better than the 2022 Pirates.  We weren't that on Thursday.  We are today.

I realize that it's a low bar to jump over, but I've reached that outlook.  I'm not hard to please.


  

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Re: Carlos Santana
Reply #9 - Nov 26th, 2022 at 5:51am
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One add:

You can cash THIS check- guaranteed- and, if the guy busts, I will absolutely give Ben a pass, just as I've done with Huntington/Archer.

I prefer aggressive moves over passivity.  Better to try and to fail than to not even try.  It's how I roll.
  

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Reply #10 - Nov 26th, 2022 at 7:41am
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He'll be 37 on April 8. He's batted .204 in the 2020s, including .183 in the second half last year.

  

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Reply #11 - Nov 26th, 2022 at 7:52am
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Babe Adams wrote on Nov 26th, 2022 at 7:41am:
He'll be 37 on April 8. He's batted .204 in the 2020s, including .183 in the second half last year.


without the shift, I think he should do better
  
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Reply #12 - Nov 26th, 2022 at 7:58am
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Will be 37 next April. Thats an age when most players are retired or just hanging on. And Santana has been in decline since age 34.

Batted .202 last year, down from .214 in 2021. 19 HRs in both 2021 and 2022. That's down from 34 in the previous full season of 2019. Great clubhouse guy and probably a good influence on other Pirates from the Dominican Republic. But not likely to be much of a hitter in the lineup. For a team that hates to spend money, I don't understand 6.7 mil for this.

Santana, Diaz and Choi. Yoi!
  

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Re: Carlos Santana
Reply #13 - Nov 26th, 2022 at 8:32am
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Bobster wrote on Nov 26th, 2022 at 7:58am:
For a team that hates to spend money, I don't understand 6.7 mil for this.


I'm guessing some combination of season tickets not moving and a premium being charged to get a veteran player to Pittsburgh.

  

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Re: Carlos Santana
Reply #14 - Nov 26th, 2022 at 8:42am
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Ecbucs wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:32pm:
WildwoodDave 2 wrote on Nov 25th, 2022 at 8:17pm:
Bucs sign Carlos Santana to a one year 6.7 Million Contract.


Ben C. is nuts.

Was reading the PG this morning. Santana was with the Mariners with Adam Frazier. Frazier said, "he is the man! Tremendous influence in the clubhouse. Takes the young players under his wing". With all the Spanish speaking players on the bucs, I think this was a good move. Some people on the board mentioned that
they wanted Cutch to play this role. He doesn't speak Spanish!
  
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