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Kneeling during National Anthem
Jul 24th, 2020 at 9:04am
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Sad to see that baseball get involved with politics and kneeling during National Anthem.  I hope the Pirates don't participate, but if they do, I'm done.  Just impossible to understand why these millionaires feel entitled to disrespect this country.  Maybe they should go and play in China.
  
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Reply #1 - Jul 24th, 2020 at 12:19pm
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skinnyhorse wrote on Jul 24th, 2020 at 9:04am:
Sad to see that baseball get involved with politics and kneeling during National Anthem.  I hope the Pirates don't participate, but if they do, I'm done.  Just impossible to understand why these millionaires feel entitled to disrespect this country.  Maybe they should go and play in China.


I bet no one in China kneels (or at least not more than once) when they play the Chinese national anthem.
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 24th, 2020 at 12:45pm
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Thread off to a strong start

We're already getting China involved!

Should be many unique, fresh, open minded,thoughtful and nuanced points presented here. I look forward to learning from many informed perspectives and viewpoints from intellectually curious folk here, that are looking to find solutions and positive changes to the world that surrounds us.
  
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Reply #3 - Jul 24th, 2020 at 1:08pm
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It wasn't that big of a deal until the people who don't like it made a big deal out of it.
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 24th, 2020 at 1:28pm
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skinnyhorse wrote on Jul 24th, 2020 at 9:04am:
Sad to see that baseball get involved with politics and kneeling during National Anthem.  I hope the Pirates don't participate, but if they do, I'm done.  Just impossible to understand why these millionaires feel entitled to disrespect this country.  Maybe they should go and play in China.

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I agree, if the Pirates participate, I will no longer watch them as they can join the NFL and the NBA in oblivion.
  
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Re: Kneeling during National Anthem
Reply #5 - Jul 24th, 2020 at 1:31pm
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ChitownBucco wrote on Jul 24th, 2020 at 12:45pm:
Thread off to a strong start

We're already getting China involved!

Should be many unique, fresh, open minded,thoughtful and nuanced points presented here. I look forward to learning from many informed perspectives and viewpoints from intellectually curious folk here, that are looking to find solutions and positive changes to the world that surrounds us.


Agreed! Looking forward to a robust, spirited debate with many nuances!
  
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Reply #6 - Jul 24th, 2020 at 1:34pm
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skinnyhorse wrote on Jul 24th, 2020 at 9:04am:
Sad to see that baseball get involved with politics and kneeling during National Anthem.  I hope the Pirates don't participate, but if they do, I'm done.  Just impossible to understand why these millionaires feel entitled to disrespect this country.  Maybe they should go and play in China.


You do know that they knelt before, not during, the anthem?

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1286452623143469057?s=20

I think Mookie Betts was the only player to kneel during last night.
  
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Reply #7 - Jul 24th, 2020 at 2:09pm
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I have had more than enough family members die while serving this country. My son is currently in the Army.
However we cannot look at this as being unpatriotic
We must look at it as exercising our freedom of speech and freedom to protest which are some of the values we as a nation have fought for.
Being alive during the Civil Rights movement I truly believed that racial equality and harmony was being addressed. I was wrong.
The election of 2016, the BLM movement opened my eyes to see that our country is divided not united.
I am hopeful that real change will occur and we can hopefully become a real UNITED States. When that happens we can enjoy our sports without debating the kneeling during the anthem
  
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Re: Kneeling during National Anthem
Reply #8 - Jul 24th, 2020 at 2:40pm
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BenM wrote on Jul 24th, 2020 at 1:34pm:
skinnyhorse wrote on Jul 24th, 2020 at 9:04am:
Sad to see that baseball get involved with politics and kneeling during National Anthem.  I hope the Pirates don't participate, but if they do, I'm done.  Just impossible to understand why these millionaires feel entitled to disrespect this country.  Maybe they should go and play in China.


You do know that they knelt before, not during, the anthem?

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1286452623143469057?s=20

I think Mookie Betts was the only player to kneel during last night.

I believe I saw where the Giants kneeled during the anthem.  It will remain to see who does what but definitely some kneeled during the anthem.  MLB should have gotten ahead of this, baseball doesn't need anymore damage done to it by this stupid kneeling garbage.   MLB Baseball may be dead.
  
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Reply #9 - Jul 24th, 2020 at 2:44pm
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I am a Pirate fan.   I don;t care what the other teams do.  But I will be watching very closely.  If the Pirates kneel during the anthem, then I am no longer a Pirate fan.
  
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Reply #10 - Jul 24th, 2020 at 2:46pm
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JollyRoger wrote on Jul 24th, 2020 at 2:09pm:
I have had more than enough family members die while serving this country. My son is currently in the Army.
However we cannot look at this as being unpatriotic
We must look at it as exercising our freedom of speech and freedom to protest which are some of the values we as a nation have fought for.
Being alive during the Civil Rights movement I truly believed that racial equality and harmony was being addressed. I was wrong.
The election of 2016, the BLM movement opened my eyes to see that our country is divided not united.
I am hopeful that real change will occur and we can hopefully become a real UNITED States. When that happens we can enjoy our sports without debating the kneeling during the anthem

What are you talking about, we elected a black president, everyone has a opportunity to proper in America, that's why millions of people want and are coming here.  If you don't like it here no one is making you stay.  Players are millionaires and they need to respect the country that made them rich.  They had better keep their politics to themselves if they know what's good for baseball.
  
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Reply #11 - Jul 24th, 2020 at 2:47pm
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shedman wrote on Jul 24th, 2020 at 2:44pm:
I am a Pirate fan.   I don;t care what the other teams do.  But I will be watching very closely.  If the Pirates kneel during the anthem, then I am no longer a Pirate fan.

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Reply #12 - Jul 24th, 2020 at 2:50pm
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SammyKhalifa wrote on Jul 24th, 2020 at 1:08pm:
It wasn't that big of a deal until the people who don't like it made a big deal out of it.

Your misguided, it's a big deal, disrepectful and I could go on and on and on.
  
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Re: Kneeling during National Anthem
Reply #13 - Jul 24th, 2020 at 2:59pm
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Is there a way we could stick a "great American" thread

Put a YouTube of the national anthem, maybe even a different version sung by various stars (like Whitney Houston super bowl) and every day before a poster comes in to read or post they could stand and honor America. Then maybe post an appreciative post about why they love our country and something that we might wish to see different in our country.


It's super important to see these young men's patriotism before they begin the task of running, throwing, and catching. Why not be patriotic before we get to the critical discussion of them hitting, throwing, catching?
  
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Re: Kneeling during National Anthem
Reply #14 - Jul 24th, 2020 at 3:30pm
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I agree.  Politics has no place in MLB.  Like getting stadiums built....like....integration back in the day.....like, President Bush using baseball to unite our country shortly after September 11, 2001.

It's only a big deal when we disagree with the subject matter and how it's displayed.

I'm a Pirates fan.  Been kneeling since 1972.

  
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