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Reply #15 - Nov 30th, 2018 at 7:07am
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Quail wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Bucs Fan in GA wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 10:56am:
I understand the thinking behind entertaining offers on Francisco. And accept it. Dang our team has had some darn good catchers in my lifetime...

Smokey Burgess
Jim Paglaroni
Jerry May
Manny Sanguillen
Milt May
Steve Nicosia
Tony Pena
Spanky and Sluggo
Jason Kendall
Russell Martin
Francisco Cervelli

Would hate to see him go...Diaz looks like he is ready to handle the pitching staff though. If they deal Franky, I hope they get quality in return and Francisco goes to a team that is a winner. He certainly has given it his all as a Bucco...Would love to see him come back as a coach. The guy has a ton of personality and appears to be a good teacher. Will be interesting to see what Neal can get for Francisco....If not, I know he will do his darnedest wearing the tools of ignorance another season...   Cool


Great list! I think it's worth mentioning Ed Ott as one of the good ones as well.

Special mention to Hank Foiles, Bob Oldis, and Harding Peterson who all caught for the Pirates either in the late 50s or early 60s, and all three of whom are among the 100 oldest living former Major League players.

Bonus trivia question: Who is the oldest living former Pirate?
Hint: He wasn't a catcher.







He is Waldon T. Westlake and he was born November 8, 1920, in Gridley California.  He was an outfielder and 3Bman.
  

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Reply #16 - Nov 30th, 2018 at 9:23am
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Possum, I knew you'd get that one! Weren't you Wally's Little League coach?  Grin
  

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Reply #17 - Nov 30th, 2018 at 10:11am
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Quail, How could I forget Ed The Otter Ott! I saw him play several time at Triple Charleston back in the late 70's.

Will have to think on the oldest Pirate. My immediate response was going to be Bob Oldis. But you said non-catcher! BTW, I hear Francisco Cordova is still alive and pitching south of the border, LOL Cheesy and still likes going barefoot while pitching!
  
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Reply #18 - Nov 30th, 2018 at 10:16am
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Wally Westlake is the oldest living Bucco. Recall hearing that Rosey Roweswell used to say, Aunt Minnie shut the window, cause Wally just hit one into the West Lake! Grin
  
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Reply #19 - Nov 30th, 2018 at 10:16am
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I thought Possum used to coach Honus and Tommy Leach?
  
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Reply #20 - Nov 30th, 2018 at 4:06pm
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Bucs Fan in GA wrote on Nov 30th, 2018 at 10:16am:
I thought Possum used to coach Honus and Tommy Leach?


Close but no cigar.  I actually taught Connie Mack how to manage baseball!   Grin  But since I did not play for the Pirates I am not eligible to be the oldest living Pirate.

Note:  I am surprised that I was not the first guess just so you guys could rag me about my age.
  

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Reply #21 - Dec 3rd, 2018 at 8:07am
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Good one Possum! But you did show Smokey Burgess how to hit a back door curve ball right? Cool

  
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Reply #22 - Dec 3rd, 2018 at 9:42am
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Bucs Fan in GA wrote on Dec 3rd, 2018 at 8:07am:
Good one Possum! But you did show Smokey Burgess how to hit a backdoor curveball right? Cool



Yep!  And he was among the best all time!   Grin
  

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Reply #23 - Dec 11th, 2018 at 9:25am
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Not quite sure about the Cervelli love versus what we get from Diaz.  Diaz hits for higher average last year, HR's were about the same, and a smidge less RBI if you were to give Diaz the extra AB's Cervelli got.  I would be happy to trade Cervelli and not worrry about Diaz being the main guy behind the plate.  I am sure they can find a better version of Stallings somewhere else as a backup
  
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Reply #24 - Dec 11th, 2018 at 10:14am
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The sense I have is that Diaz doesn't square up behind the plate, with the result that a lot of balls that bounce in the dirt and should bounce off him and end up right in front, to be picked up, instead deflect at an angle and become pass balls or wild pitches. Aside from that, I would be happy to see Diaz catch 60% of the time and Cervelli the rest. I do think they need to spell each other - catching is a grueling position and you get better results if the job is shared.
  
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Reply #25 - Dec 12th, 2018 at 9:31am
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fjk090852-7 wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 7:40am:
Just because they are shopping him, does not mean they will trade him. If they would find a match for a deal, they may want a catcher in return as part of the package.
the census is that the buccos are listening to offers, but will probably keep Cerveli
  
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