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Re: 6/13 game thread
Reply #30 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 9:17pm
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Ghost of Honus wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 6:44pm:
Holy smokes!  Get the hook, Hurdle!  Wake up, man.



OK ... so who do you have confidence in as far as bullpen arm?

I would go Rodriguez, but he is on the DL

I might go with Santana next (good WHIP ... high ERA due to maybe one bad outing)

The rest scare the hell out of me.
  
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Re: 6/13 game thread
Reply #31 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 9:25pm
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Steady Freddy wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
dmetz wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 6:52pm:
Good win?  Jesus H. Montero! that was not well played...   

Turn it all around this homestand and run off 5-6 straight.  To do that, we will need to pull our you know what out of where and play this game the right way.   We shall see
The Pirates need to win this series against a pretty bad Reds team coming up this weekend at home. They haven’t won a 3 game series or any series for that matter in 5 weeks. They better win this one no excuses not too. You gotta start somewhere to get back on track and this weekend against this Reds team is a good time to do so. If the Pirates can’t win this series at least 2 out of 3 then I don’t know when they will win another series again.


They were a couple plays away of sweeping the Diamondbacks. They have to get back to winning series.
  
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Re: 6/13 game thread
Reply #32 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 9:57pm
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Rivero is a total mental case, he should never be left in the game with the game on the line.  He is a mental mess.
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Re: 6/13 game thread
Reply #33 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 10:36pm
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I often feel Vazquez gets lazy finishing his pitches.  Unlike Melancon, who delivered with the accuracy of a dart thrower, Vazquez is more of a slinger..."Here is my stuff, try and hit it."   This year opponents are not only doing that, they are taking pitches and making him work.

The thing I haven't seen as much of this year is the great snap on his breaking pitch.  My trip to Fangraphs confirmed Vazquez is throwing his slider a career low 3.6% of the time--- down from his previous career low of 13% last season.

Major leaguers eventually hit fastballs and change ups, which he is throwing a career high 23% of the time in 2018. 

Headcase or not, I would be patient with Vazquez.  Let him return to his power repertoire (more sliders, less change ups) and let's see if he rebounds.  A good slider might finish off those 6, 7, and 8 pitch at bats he is struggling through.
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Re: 6/13 game thread
Reply #34 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 10:48pm
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This series was classic Pirates.

Outplayed the D-Backs 2 of 3.

Won 1 of 3.

Came within an eyelash of winning 0 of 3.
  
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Re: 6/13 game thread
Reply #35 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 7:25am
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INbuc wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
I often feel Vazquez gets lazy finishing his pitches.  Unlike Melancon, who delivered with the accuracy of a dart thrower, Vazquez is more of a slinger..."Here is my stuff, try and hit it."   This year opponents are not only doing that, they are taking pitches and making him work.

The thing I haven't seen as much of this year is the great snap on his breaking pitch.  My trip to Fangraphs confirmed Vazquez is throwing his slider a career low 3.6% of the time--- down from his previous career low of 13% last season.

Major leaguers eventually hit fastballs and change ups, which he is throwing a career high 23% of the time in 2018. 

Headcase or not, I would be patient with Vazquez.  Let him return to his power repertoire (more sliders, less change ups) and let's see if he rebounds.  A good slider might finish off those 6, 7, and 8 pitch at bats he is struggling through.

It seems like he is very often throwing pitches nowhere near the strike zone. RH batters often see pitches 4 feet outside or 3 feet high. A MLB pitcher--especially one who has had success--should not be that wild. That seems like a mechanical problem. He gets behind on most batters and they either walk or wait for him to groove something down the middle on a 3-ball count. He's a completely different pitcher this year.

2017: 47 hits in 75.1 IP. 2.4 BBs/9 IP. ERA 1.67. WHIP 0.889.
2018: 25 hits in 25.2 IP. 4.2 BBs/9 IP. ERA 4.21. WHIP 1.442.

Sadly, there's not a single pitcher in the BP who can be trusted in any inning, any situation.

  
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Re: 6/13 game thread
Reply #36 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 8:03am
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Dogknot3 wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 9:25pm:
Steady Freddy wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
dmetz wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 6:52pm:
Good win?  Jesus H. Montero! that was not well played...   

Turn it all around this homestand and run off 5-6 straight.  To do that, we will need to pull our you know what out of where and play this game the right way.   We shall see
The Pirates need to win this series against a pretty bad Reds team coming up this weekend at home. They haven’t won a 3 game series or any series for that matter in 5 weeks. They better win this one no excuses not too. You gotta start somewhere to get back on track and this weekend against this Reds team is a good time to do so. If the Pirates can’t win this series at least 2 out of 3 then I don’t know when they will win another series again.


They were a couple plays away of sweeping the Diamondbacks. They have to get back to winning series.
Yea but they didn’t sweep them they barely won one game. They don’t give you extra wins for only blowing a 5-0 lead and coming back down 8-0 and making it 8-6 as opposed to blowing a 2-1 lead. The Pirates got what they deserved this series with Arizona  and deserved to lose 2 out of 3. This team still has a ton of issues and I am not sold on them turning things around and going on any kind of winning streak anytime soon.
  
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Re: 6/13 game thread
Reply #37 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 8:39am
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He should definitely change his name back.
  
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Reply #38 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 8:47am
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SammyKhalifa wrote on Jun 14th, 2018 at 8:39am:
He should definitely change his name back.

Turns out "Felipe Vazquez" is Spanish for "Ricky Vaughn." Who knew?  Wink
  
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Re: 6/13 game thread
Reply #39 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 10:15am
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"Give him the heater Ricky"...LOL
  
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