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Re: 5/16 afternoon game thread
Reply #30 - May 16th, 2018 at 3:36pm
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VaPirate wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 3:23pm:
Good win!

The small sample size is turning into a large sample size....


Would be curious to see the results of the season prediction thread if asked today?
  
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Re: 5/16 afternoon game thread
Reply #31 - May 16th, 2018 at 3:41pm
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10-3-1 in series so far on the year. .5 game out of having the best record in the National League. Fourth sweep of the year already, three coming against the AL. 10-2 so far in interleague play. In 2013 and 2015, the Pirates dominated interleague play. In some ways, it was defining in those years.

Not that you can "take away" games, but even of our 17 losses, eight have come in our stinkers against the Phillies and Nats. 25-9 against all teams not from Philadelphia or Washington.

No doubt, they will have ups and downs over the season, and a week from now, we might all be down in the dumps again, but right now, I don't care that it's the White Sox we just swept.

The White Sox are a terrible team, but the Cubs play them six times and already have one loss against them. The Cards and Brewers will each play them three times, and I've got to believe the White Sox won't go 0-6 in those games. But, here we are with a season sweep. Good teams beat bad team, and regardless of how bad the ChiSox, or Padres, or Reds, or anyone else is, it's not like they're playing some local beer league softball team, or heck, even a AAA team. The White Sox would win the IL going away. There are only 750 MLB jobs in any given year. So, 25 of the 750 best baseball players in the world play for the team we just beat four times. I'm becoming more and more convinced that this is a legitimate 90 win team, and 90 wins gets you in the playoffs.
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Re: 5/16 afternoon game thread
Reply #32 - May 16th, 2018 at 3:53pm
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I'm gonna add one more thing. Yes, I'm being positive and upbeat about this team. I predicted 65-97. They're going to blow right past that. And I'm thrilled! They might tank tomorrow. They might go all 2012 and have an epic September collapse. But I'll be danged if I sit by and pretend that what I'm witnessing isn't happening. This might be the only stretch of good baseball this team plays all year! Might as well enjoy it now.
  
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Re: 5/16 afternoon game thread
Reply #33 - May 16th, 2018 at 3:54pm
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You could tell Taillon was having trouble controlling the curve, but still gutted it out (swinging bunt away from going six). 
Good but not great work from the pen today. Congrats to Santana for his first career win (I think he joins Rodriguez and Kingham in the “first career win in 18” club).
While the offense wasn’t great, it was enough.  Great clutch hitting by Bell in the seventh.

The Pirates can hold serve with good teams if they keep tearing up the bad ones.

  
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Re: 5/16 afternoon game thread
Reply #34 - May 16th, 2018 at 3:59pm
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IABucFan wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 3:41pm:
10-3-1 in series so far on the year. .5 game out of having the best record in the National League. Fourth sweep of the year already, three coming against the AL. 10-2 so far in interleague play. In 2013 and 2015, the Pirates dominated interleague play. In some ways, it was defining in those years.

Not that you can "take away" games, but even of our 17 losses, eight have come in our stinkers against the Phillies and Nats. 25-9 against all teams not from Philadelphia or Washington.

No doubt, they will have ups and downs over the season, and a week from now, we might all be down in the dumps again, but right now, I don't care that it's the White Sox we just swept.

The White Sox are a terrible team, but the Cubs play them six times and already have one loss against them. The Cards and Brewers will each play them three times, and I've got to believe the White Sox won't go 0-6 in those games. But, here we are with a season sweep. Good teams beat bad team, and regardless of how bad the ChiSox, or Padres, or Reds, or anyone else is, it's not like they're playing some local beer league softball team, or heck, even a AAA team. The White Sox would win the IL going away. There are only 750 MLB jobs in any given year. So, 25 of the 750 best baseball players in the world play for the team we just beat four times. I'm becoming more and more convinced that this is a legitimate 90 win team, and 90 wins gets you in the playoffs.
I agree IA I am becoming more and more of a believer each and every game. The people who are still cynical about this team saying “it won’t last or “it’s too early can just go away because I’m tired of you and I get it. The Pirates can’t help who is on their schedule all they can do is beat the teams that are on it. And not they have absolutely feasted on the bad teams so far this season which is something they just weren’t doing in years past. Not to mention they are 10-3 against the division. Got 7 more games in a row coming up against bad teams before we see a huge amount of games both home and away against the Cards and Cubs. Pretty good chance this team enters June in 1st place and getting a guy like JHay back to this already solid lineup will make this Pirates team that more legit.
  
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Reply #35 - May 16th, 2018 at 4:16pm
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Listening to the White Sox broadcast team: they certainly think the Pirates are legitimate.  I think they are a very good team capable of winning 90.  It’s a fun team, and exciting. What’s there not to like?  The fans are staying away in large numbers, the atmosphere at PNC is mostly pretty bad; a lot of people are missing an exciting season.  I get “it”, but I hate to see the average fan miss out on this team’s successes.   

  
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Reply #36 - May 16th, 2018 at 4:26pm
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So the big issue to start the year was the bullpen, I remember at the time that I was more more concerned about position players continuing to perform. If there is one thing that the management braintrust has been able to do, it's piece together a good bullpen. Crick and Santana have emerged as reliable middle relief guys and Feliz and Vazquez as back end guys.

Going forward, the relative weakness of the rotation is hedged by the deep bullpen. The rotation has trouble going deep in games and it's still really the end goal for them to just get through that 6th inning.

P2 had a piece today that seemed to imply that the Marte thing looks like an oblique, which would be bad, and he'll have to sit for some time. That is bad news. I really hope that they bring up Bostick or Meadows, injecting some young blood into the lineup can provide a spark at times, and I could really see a guy like Bostick coming up and surprising.
  
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Re: 5/16 afternoon game thread
Reply #37 - May 16th, 2018 at 4:48pm
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Tintin wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 3:54pm:
You could tell Taillon was having trouble controlling the curve, but still gutted it out (swinging bunt away from going six). 
Good but not great work from the pen today. Congrats to Santana for his first career win (I think he joins Rodriguez and Kingham in the “first career win in 18” club).
While the offense wasn’t great, it was enough.  Great clutch hitting by Bell in the seventh.

The Pirates can hold serve with good teams if they keep tearing up the bad ones.


I'll take good every time. 3.1 IP 3 H, no runs, no walks

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Re: 5/16 afternoon game thread
Reply #38 - May 16th, 2018 at 6:27pm
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Why was there no AT&T TV coverage for today's game? I can understand when there's a conflict with a Pens game (kind of), but what local event could possibly usurp an MLB game on a regional sports network?
  
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Re: 5/16 afternoon game thread
Reply #39 - May 16th, 2018 at 6:36pm
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Orlando Merced wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 4:26pm:
So the big issue to start the year was the bullpen, I remember at the time that I was more more concerned about position players continuing to perform. If there is one thing that the management braintrust has been able to do, it's piece together a good bullpen. Crick and Santana have emerged as reliable middle relief guys and Feliz and Vazquez as back end guys.

Going forward, the relative weakness of the rotation is hedged by the deep bullpen. The rotation has trouble going deep in games and it's still really the end goal for them to just get through that 6th inning.

P2 had a piece today that seemed to imply that the Marte thing looks like an oblique, which would be bad, and he'll have to sit for some time. That is bad news. I really hope that they bring up Bostick or Meadows, injecting some young blood into the lineup can provide a spark at times, and I could really see a guy like Bostick coming up and surprising.


If Marte is going to be out for an extended time I'd also like to see one of Meadows or Bostick get a shot in CF. I fear though that with JHay returning soon that we'll see SRod and Frazier (both played in CF today) in a sort of platoon situation with Frazier starting against right hand pitching and SRod coming in late for defensive purposes.
  

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Re: 5/16 afternoon game thread
Reply #40 - May 16th, 2018 at 6:53pm
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Quail wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
Orlando Merced wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 4:26pm:
So the big issue to start the year was the bullpen, I remember at the time that I was more more concerned about position players continuing to perform. If there is one thing that the management braintrust has been able to do, it's piece together a good bullpen. Crick and Santana have emerged as reliable middle relief guys and Feliz and Vazquez as back end guys.

Going forward, the relative weakness of the rotation is hedged by the deep bullpen. The rotation has trouble going deep in games and it's still really the end goal for them to just get through that 6th inning.

P2 had a piece today that seemed to imply that the Marte thing looks like an oblique, which would be bad, and he'll have to sit for some time. That is bad news. I really hope that they bring up Bostick or Meadows, injecting some young blood into the lineup can provide a spark at times, and I could really see a guy like Bostick coming up and surprising.


If Marte is going to be out for an extended time I'd also like to see one of Meadows or Bostick get a shot in CF. I fear though that with JHay returning soon that we'll see SRod and Frazier (both played in CF today) in a sort of platoon situation with Frazier starting against right hand pitching and SRod coming in late for defensive purposes.


I heard that Marte said he didn't think he'd need a DL stint. Given that the DL is only ten days now instead of 15, I'm hoping it's not all that serious.
  
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Re: 5/16 afternoon game thread
Reply #41 - May 17th, 2018 at 12:42am
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I wonder if there are any thoughts in moving the outfield around for a short period. Instead of just using Rodriguez, they could get Osuna at bats.

I know Hurdle said Polanco won't play CF, but why not LF? Dickerson in CF and then Osuna can play RF.  Dickerson has some experience in CF. LF is too big for Osuna.
  
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Re: 5/16 afternoon game thread
Reply #42 - May 17th, 2018 at 7:52am
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Dogknot3 wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 12:42am:
I wonder if there are any thoughts in moving the outfield around for a short period. Instead of just using Rodriguez, they could get Osuna at bats.

I know Hurdle said Polanco won't play CF, but why not LF? Dickerson in CF and then Osuna can play RF.  Dickerson has some experience in CF. LF is too big for Osuna.


Meadows, Bostick, Osuna getting playing time? Here's what Hurdle said: "Rodriguez is “the best option” to play center field while Marte is out. I have zero interest in moving (Gregory) Polanco to center. None.”

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Re: 5/16 afternoon game thread
Reply #43 - May 17th, 2018 at 8:02am
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Quail wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:52am:
Dogknot3 wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 12:42am:
I wonder if there are any thoughts in moving the outfield around for a short period. Instead of just using Rodriguez, they could get Osuna at bats.

I know Hurdle said Polanco won't play CF, but why not LF? Dickerson in CF and then Osuna can play RF.  Dickerson has some experience in CF. LF is too big for Osuna.


Meadows, Bostick, Osuna getting playing time? Here's what Hurdle said: "Rodriguez is “the best option” to play center field while Marte is out. I have zero interest in moving (Gregory) Polanco to center. None.”

Looks like no new toys for us.  Cry

As the roster is currently constituted, I would agree with Hurdle that Rodriguez is the best defensive option for CF. I think Hurdle has seen what the rest of us have seen in Polanco's sometimes cringe worthy defense. No way I would put him in CF for any extended period. That doesn't mean Meadows or Bostick shouldn't be recalled. But I totally understand the zero interest in moving Polanco to CF.
  
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Re: 5/16 afternoon game thread
Reply #44 - May 17th, 2018 at 8:05am
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Dogknot3 wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 12:42am:
I wonder if there are any thoughts in moving the outfield around for a short period. Instead of just using Rodriguez, they could get Osuna at bats.

I know Hurdle said Polanco won't play CF, but why not LF? Dickerson in CF and then Osuna can play RF.  Dickerson has some experience in CF. LF is too big for Osuna.


He should be but Polanco just isn't a good defensive player right now
  
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