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Poll Question: Will the Pirates be better than last year?
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« Created by: Dogknot3 on: Mar 9th, 2018 at 3:28pm »
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Will 2018 Pirates be better than 2017?
Mar 9th, 2018 at 3:28pm
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I saw the Prediction thread started (awesome), but wanted to break it down for easy viewing.

To clarify I think that Dog is looking for us to answer a very simple question, "Will the team be better in 2018 than 2017"  No need to post any W-L or run totals.  Just vote and if you feel like it tell us why you voted the way you did. - Possum


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Reply #1 - Mar 10th, 2018 at 9:56am
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I think the team is definitely better. 

But the division is going to be insane. Better team.  But better record?
  
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Re: 2018 Prediction Overall
Reply #2 - Mar 10th, 2018 at 11:44am
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Good idea Dog.  Have it up here where all can see it and vote.  Also I want to comeback at the end of the season and or when the win their 75th game or lose there 89th and perhaps gloat or cry a bit at the result.  See excuses why the Bucs didn't do what we voted.  I voted yes because I am a glass half full kinda guy despite the Bucs being run by the TBMTIB   Grin
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Summing up the Pirates chances of being competitive in 2018:  "It's like a horse race with Mr. Ed going against Secretariat"
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Re: 2018 Prediction Overall
Reply #3 - Mar 10th, 2018 at 1:35pm
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I don't think the Cubs or Cardinals will be as good as years past. I do think the Brewers and Reds will be better than last year. It might just even itself put.
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 10th, 2018 at 3:27pm
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This is going to confuse some people so I'm going to change the title of the poll so that we don't get W-L predictions in the wrong thread.
  
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Re: Will 2018 Pirates be better than 2017?
Reply #5 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 9:23am
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A few games better but nothing earth shattering
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 9:10am
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I am surprised that the team lost their best player and their best pitcher yet most people think they will be better than last year.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:37pm
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Yeah I don't get it.
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 9:39pm
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notes34 wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
Yeah I don't get it.


You only think they made a three game difference?  You predicted 71 wins in the other thread.

Was Marte and Kang that big of a loss last year?  I thought so but so many disagreed with me.  This is surprising to me. Good to see the excitement, but still very surprising overall.

  
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Re: Will 2018 Pirates be better than 2017?
Reply #9 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 10:49pm
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Dogknot3 wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 9:10am:
I am surprised that the team lost their best player and their best pitcher yet most people think they will be better than last year.


Neither of them has that good last year.  In fact, I would argue their (terrible) performance was one of the primary reasons why they've fallen so much in the last two years.
  
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Re: Will 2018 Pirates be better than 2017?
Reply #10 - Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:24am
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PMike wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Dogknot3 wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 9:10am:
I am surprised that the team lost their best player and their best pitcher yet most people think they will be better than last year.


Neither of them has that good last year.  In fact, I would argue their (terrible) performance was one of the primary reasons why they've fallen so much in the last two years.


They didn't have years like they have in the past, but they were still the best offensive player and a top starter.

McCutchen was still the best player on the team.  He had the best overall year.  Cole was at least a top starter and in the discussion as team's best.  He provided the most innings and wins. 
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 14th, 2018 at 8:57am
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I voted better, but I have to acknowledge that I woke up this morning with a serious case of glass half-full optimism. I do believe they could threaten to reach the .500 mark with a few breaks. However, if the starting pitching performs down to its floor rather than reaching for its ceiling...it could get ugly.
  

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Re: Will 2018 Pirates be better than 2017?
Reply #12 - Mar 14th, 2018 at 11:30am
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They'll lose close to 90, most likely.   particularly after JHay and Mercer are traded away at the deadline or sooner.
  
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Reply #13 - Mar 14th, 2018 at 6:16pm
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Better?  Nope.  We didn't do anything to improve in the offseason.  Our downfall will be the rotation.
  
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Re: Will 2018 Pirates be better than 2017?
Reply #14 - Mar 15th, 2018 at 8:19am
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SCBucco wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 6:16pm:
Better?  Nope.  We didn't do anything to improve in the offseason.  Our downfall will be the rotation.


But shouldn't "we didn't do anything to improve" mean that we'll be the same as last year?
  
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